Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races? [.Mitch. v Aanker] discussion thread

[Christonikos]

Shouldn't that be a Yes or No topic?
Anyways, since we have the right to destroy our own race, who cares about aliens?

[.Mitch.]

This is a private debate, if you wish to comment use a commentary thread, thanks.

[Darth Red]

Commentary thread opened.

[.Mitch.]

Thank you Darth.

Shouldn't that be a Yes or No topic?
Anyways, since we have the right to destroy our own race, who cares about aliens?

It may be a yes or no topic, that doesn't mean it can't be debated, Aanker belives Yes, I believe No, we are firing our arguments at each other to see who's is most valid. I.e A debate.

[The Hedge Knight]

Seems a very hard debate for the anti genocide guy, he has to persuade the audience Welshmen have no intrinsic value and that there are situations in which an end to the human race is in the selfish interest of the human race.

[Twitch702]

Quite an interesting debate topic. The posts thus far have shown that it should be quite the debate. I'm with the "No" side on this argument, since I'm an egalitarian and feel that all life is equal, and it is only slight modifications in the genetic code that separate "us from them". Just my two cents.

[Vanoi]

Honestly Mitch, i expected that you would be for it not against it

[.Mitch.]

Honestly Mitch, i expected that you would be for it not against it

I know crazy right!

[Admiral Piett]

I'm gonna go with Corporal Hicks on this one.




Or Captain MacReady down in Antarctica, torch the entire place

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

All unintelligent alien life shall be feasted upon like cattle. No point giving special rights that the vast majority of Earth life doesn't get.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

We could interbreed...What stds would that bring and what illnesses would meeting aliens give.Surely we would infect each other and all die...
I magine aliens came to earth and started saying a man named jesus claimed to be god.Oops that would be spooky coz if aliens more clever than us appeared then god must have made them? Or does there existance prove there is no god and jesus was a mad mind guru

[The Hedge Knight]

Assuming that the alien just happened to evolve using the same replicator system almost all earthbound life uses (DNA) and that that happens to be arranged into 46 chromosomes. That would make said aliens human anyway so it would not be interbreeding. Illness is unlikely due to the above reason, there is no reason life should close to our own and thus no reason why illness' should be transmitted across species. If you cant catch most diseases affecting monkeys (with a few exceptions) you ain't going to be able to catch them from aliens.

[Admiral Piett]

Assuming that the alien just happened to evolve using the same replicator system almost all earthbound life uses (DNA) and that that happens to be arranged into 46 chromosomes. That would make said aliens human anyway so it would not be interbreeding. Illness is unlikely due to the above reason, there is no reason life should close to our own and thus no reason why illness' should be transmitted across species. If you cant catch most diseases affecting monkeys (with a few exceptions) you ain't going to be able to catch them from aliens.

But there's the possibility that they carry something that doesn't affect them at all but is lethal to us.

[Loger]

Well. It would depend on the aliens really. Could be yes or no for me.

[The Hedge Knight]

But there's the possibility that they carry something that doesn't affect them at all but is lethal to us.

That would be more likely a chemical of some sort or a parasite of some sort than a virus. I would very much doubt that virus' (which are a later product of evolution than bacteria) from another world could infect humans, they would have totally the wrong base sequences presuming they used DNA and may lack evolutionary traits such as the ability to cross a phospholipid bilayer or avoid phagocytes. Something along the lines of a prion or something that blocked a chemical pathway in a similar manner to cyanide would be nasty, I cant see alien bacteria having evolved the exact same RNA control system as earth bound bacteria however and I cannot see why they would have the general capability to multiply in an earthy body, its just very unlikely given how specific the conditions on earth have to be for many kinds of bacteria to reproduce.

Parasites on the other hand I guess could work (say if they just needed 02, glucose and had scary teeth to get it with) but even here many are pretty specialised and may require certain conditions which life on earth simply would not by all chance provide.

Sorry about my terrible terminology here, too early in the morning.

[Aanker]

I have to confess that Mitch's last reply was a good one, so I'll have to take some time to structure a solid argument against it.

[Nevins]

Its a TWC HFTP debate

[.Mitch.]

Aye, I do like battling with the HFTP, whether that be a battle of Ak47s or a battle of minds. =P

[The Hedge Knight]

Just look through the italics, bold and underlined. If Mitch argues there can never be true right then all actions are meaningless thus do not require justification. Its all going a little nihilistic. What's the problem with breaking up molecules anyway?

[.Mitch.]

Just look through the italics, bold and underlined. If Mitch argues there can never be true right then all actions are meaningless thus do not require justification. Its all going a little nihilistic. What's the problem with breaking up molecules anyway?

Perhaps you haven't read the title of the debate Josst? You really need to, because if you also agree there is no such thing as right then the question "Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races?" is already decided in my favour.

Thanks for your support though..