Children?

[Misantropia]

so, playing as Byzantines at around turn 40 no new generals were produced, the heir had no children just the adopted generals, and those generals did not marry also the daughters of the empire did not marry either, so now I have 40-50 year old generals with no wives and children as well as a dead komenos dinasty, as the last emperor is 60 years old... I guess this is a bug

[Lazy]

The reason is:

just the adopted generals

Do not adpot generals if you want to have male children!
=>1 General/Child per region

[Misantropia]

the heir adopted 4 and the other brothers adopted one each
BUT the generals did not adopt any other generals and the girls did not get married (I got 3 offers but they were all over 50)

anso the generals did not get married...

[Ferdiad]

Theres a ratio of settlements to family members so conquer mr regions and you'll get more family members.

[Denizou]

The generals never get marriages by themselves (they are not part of the royal family) if you want them to integrate your family, you have to marry your royal daughters to them. But beware, if you marry royal daughters to a general, the GIRLS this very generals will have won't be royal (they will only wait until they get a marriage proposition. On the other hand if you adopt any general by a family member only, if this adopted general has daughters they are royal daughters. The best balance imo is to not adopt anybody before having some royal children, then adopt only if really necessary and the most young possible (but remember, adopted generals can't get education even if they're 16) Also, adopt only if the benefactor is from a royal family (so in case this adopted general has only daughters you can still use them for diplomacy or marry them to other royal bloodlines, btw be sure to spot correctly the royal blood from the other nations, you should pay attention to this trait "of ... blood". Best to send always a spy with a wandering daughter looking for a foreigner so you can spot the royal bloodline from other nations. ("Family member" is not sufficient when you spot foreigners, because most of the time they're adopted. Spies are used to ... spy the character in question so you can see his traits. Oh and of course never marry a royal daughter to a foreigner general. Only to a family member of a royal blood (well it's their best use). So they could have children with better traits (two trait "of ... blood")

Don't forget also that as Ferdiad said there is a ratio per family members but this ratio can be bypassed if you adopt to a minimum (children that didn't come of age do not count in the ratio, only adult generals) so ... don't adopt unless really necessary!!

Hope it was clear enough

[Ferdiad]

Or unless they look really promising.

[Radzeer]

And also, if you have unmarried royal princesses your male FMs may not get marriage offers.

[Denizou]

Yes, but say you find a really good general (foreigner or not)(more than 7 command, more than 6 chivalry and more than 5 loyalty (you get +3 in loyalty anyway with the royal ties)) if this general get 2 daughters it's quite useless because they won't be royal and stay there waiting for a marriage with most of time a poor sod full of petty ambitions. Worse, if these daughters come to an age when they can marry, and you have a royal princess that come of age just AFTER them, and you don't want to marry the royal daughter to another bloodline AND you don't have another family member to marry her, you are quite in a mess because you will need to wait these two daughters to get a decent marriage BEFORE your royal princess gets any proposal(the game doesn't randomize the proposals, it takes only the most aged at first) so you take the risk to wait sometimes a long time until your royal blood finds a marriage ... Happened this exact scenario to me, I had to marry my royal princess at last after 3 other petty princesses got their respective marriages. At the end the princess was forty. Which is not good if you want to perpetuate.

[Misantropia]

so I guess I will have to restart the Byzantines campaign, the problem is that being so large at start end expanding, without atacking the urks by another 3-4 provinces, I am in a dire need for generals and governors...

Also how do I marry my royal daughters?

As you can see I am a new to this mod, any help on this matter is highly apreciated

Thank you

[Denizou]

click on your royal daughter "Your Majesty?" then click right on a unmarried family member/general. You get a 100% chance to marry him. If the family member/general is a foreigner, you got a percent which is high (if the princess has a lot of charm and/or the general is a little er ... bad stats I mean) or less (if your princess has less charm and/or the general is a ing genius). If you begin in this mod, I highly suggest that you keep your princess in the family for a while and wait them to get a decent proposal (because of the reasons I wrote, if it isn't clear just ask) or marry with your other family members (you only can't marry brothers/sisters) but if you really want to marry them to a foreigner: 1) get a map information of the nation where you want to marry her 2) click your princess and click right on the settlements of the nation you got the map info, you should see a "potential suitors or no potentials suitors in this settlement" (even if these settlements are in the fog of war 3) if you found or didn't find a suitor you want by looking in the settlements with your clicks, send a spy together with the princess and wander the lands of this nations until you find the perfect addition to your family 4) be sure to spot the best ones with your spy (respectively, in order): family member with royal blood, family member, general. 5) if you find the one, marry him by clicking right on him.

[Misantropia]

the thing is that the Byzantines did not have the princesses turned into agents... they just sit there, 4 of them receiving only 3 proposals from 40-50 year old generals.

[Denizou]

They do. Read all I wrote, you will understand why your princesses just stay there.

The generals never get marriages by themselves (they are not part of the royal family) if you want them to integrate your family, you have to marry your royal daughters to them. But beware, if you marry royal daughters to a general, the GIRLS this very generals will have won't be royal (they will only wait until they get a marriage proposition. On the other hand if you adopt any general by a family member only, if this adopted general has daughters they are royal daughters. The best balance imo is to not adopt anybody before having some royal children, then adopt only if really necessary and the most young possible (but remember, adopted generals can't get education even if they're 16) Also, adopt only if the benefactor is from a royal family (so in case this adopted general has only daughters you can still use them for diplomacy or marry them to other royal bloodlines, btw be sure to spot correctly the royal blood from the other nations, you should pay attention to this trait "of ... blood". Best to send always a spy with a wandering daughter looking for a foreigner so you can spot the royal bloodline from other nations. ("Family member" is not sufficient when you spot foreigners, because most of the time they're adopted. Spies are used to ... spy the character in question so you can see his traits. Oh and of course never marry a royal daughter to a foreigner general. Only to a family member of a royal blood (well it's their best use). So they could have children with better traits (two trait "of ... blood")

Don't forget also that as Ferdiad said there is a ratio per family members but this ratio can be bypassed if you adopt to a minimum (children that didn't come of age do not count in the ratio, only adult generals) so ... don't adopt unless really necessary!!

Hope it was clear enough

Royal daughter= daughter with diplomatic ability, who can marry whoever you chose for hers or wait for them to get a random proposal
Non-royal= in bold

[Caesar Clivus]

the thing is that the Byzantines did not have the princesses turned into agents... they just sit there, 4 of them receiving only 3 proposals from 40-50 year old generals.

Only the daughters of the king or heir will turn into agents on the map. Any other daughters will just be in the family tree but not agents.

[Misantropia]

the problem is that I did not recive enough mariage proposals for my 4 daughters that are now 40 years old, I imagine this is because I adopted all acceptable candidates, so, can someone point me to the script that limits these aspects so I can increase it a little, governing a large empire needs a lot of governors, not adopting would mean that I have 4-5 of them for 50 turns

[Caesar Clivus]

It's hardcoded. It can't be changed. You'll just have to stop adopting so much.

[Misantropia]

well, I found the maximum children one character can have and changed it to 5

<max_number_of_children uint="5"/>

hope this helps

[Caesar Clivus]

Dont do that. Changing it to above 4 will crash your game (not immediately but eventually)

[Misantropia]

thank you, so, do I have to restart my game after moding it back?

[Caesar Clivus]

Shouldn't have to.

[Head of the Heavy Chargers]

Theres a ratio of settlements to family members so conquer mr regions and you'll get more family members.

This ratio has sadly failed me time after time. I usually get one or two generations of royal blooded children and then my royal dynasty dies unless I adopt or marry princesses if the faction has them.

Often I have +20 settlements and only 1-3 50 year old members of the royal house who don't like women.