Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth
conon and jlop posted some a while back.
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Re: Population of Macedonia and other Hellenistic states
conon and jlop posted some a while back.
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Re: Population of Macedonia and other Hellenistic states
Something online would be nice.
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Re: Population of Macedonia and other Hellenistic states
Indeed. I would like a few sources as well. Personally I've posted the number which is most probable for the Macedonians who had full citizenship rights at that time (only 35,000 men) but my estimates for the total population are rather inaccurate.
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Re: Population of Macedonia and other Hellenistic states
Not really. Its funny everyone is happy with the Traditional high numbers for ancient China the turn of the century (um well the previous one 1900) era estimates for a the ancient Med never seem to loose to more modern research.Do you guys have any sources to back up these numbers at millions? Seems like you're flying pretty high...
Duke is very slowly putting GRBS online. That means you can see one recent update the Hansen has published here:
http://www.duke.edu/web/classics/grb...48/Hansen2.pdf
One thing to remember is that Greece and lot of the other places in heavily engaged in intensive agriculture and trade and not subsistence production - that's why not just Athens but so much of Greece where often grain improters. See Moreno's Feeding the democracy - there are too many large Athenian demes that simply could never sustain there population by a substance self sufficient type farming - but could easy earn the money to import grain in a money economy with just two of Athens notable exports - olive oil and honey [and in fact the archeology on the ground strongly points in that direction not subsistence plots]. Easy access to cheap sea and river transport and early currency use allowed the Eastern and than Western med to rationalize a lot of production and sustain high populations.
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