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    Default Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    First of all: I know this has been asked a couple of times but there were never definite and solid answers to these questions so I will give it another try.

    So I'm playing as Gondor and am about to receive Aragorn's offer of service to me. I know that my faction leaders will go bad crazy but I wonder about a couple of things:


    1. Will my stewards keep going crazy even after he is dead due possible script limitations?
    2. What of poor Eriador? Will they lose their heroic general if I accept?
    3. What of Arnor? Can poor and innocent Eriador still transform into this absolute beast without Aragorn? The player sure can't but what about A.I.?


    I will not accept his service if this means either of those things happens. I need a strong north for now occupying Isengard and the petty orc factions while I beat Mordor into non existence like their southern ally.

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    1 dont know hopefully some modders can answer that
    2 they will keep their aragron
    3 yes they can still transform into arnor
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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    1) Nope, only Denethor

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ngugi View Post
    1) Nope, only Denethor
    Are you sure about that? I've read stories about Boromir going mad too after Denethor died. Boromir is my priced treasure, I can't have that happening to him.

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    Just as well you asked again; was sure it was handled through a script that terminated after giving it to Denethor, seems there's no such thing, as you feared.
    There are work arounds, but easiest is yes, to decline Aragorn all together.
    Just as well if things are going fair enough for Gondor; the only reason the forest bum of Isildur's line could take his seat of Anárion's was that he took advantage of crisis

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    Quotation from Kiliç Ali Thread Aragorn&Gondor 8 februari 2012:

    ;------------ Aragorn Event ------------------
    Trigger aragorn_accepted
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    Condition IsFactionLeader
    and CharFactionType sicily
    and not FactionLeaderTrait Elessar >= 1
    and I_EventCounter aragorn_accepted > 0
    Affects BadAdministrator 1 Chance 50
    Affects NonAuthoritarian 2 Chance 100
    Affects Noauthority 1 Chance 100
    Affects Unjust 1 Chance 50
    Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 100


    and replace the red one with
    FactionLeaderTrait Denethor = 1

    so only Denethor will go mad.
    Not sure if save-compatible.
    Cheers

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    Not sure, but think so (as long as not a later Steward got it already)

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    Default Re: Playing as Gondor, should I accept Aragorn or not?

    I dont know... Denethor seating on Minas Tirith and gaining mad perks on unit training, comerce, mining and building makes aragorn look pitifully weak

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