(Historical Battles Project) The Siege of Minas Tirith - Version 2.1 is UP, Helm's Deep - Version 1.0 has been released (Read OP for details)

[Escorpion]

where is the battle of helms deep able to donwload ? wow this is so sosososososoosososo cool thanks man.

[Dutch-Balrog]

This looks amazing, however i cant play it : i extracted it in the good folder but when i go into custom battles, i see it, but there's nothing in it : when i click on it there's no armies already entered or any maps.

You installed it wrong, the map must end up in the historical battle section, not custom battle.

[.:Zack Fair:.]

That was so freaking amazing!

[Rorarii]

THAT was one epic battle!

but where are those that dwell in the mountain? ... joking

Well done.

Pity only 1 of 8 threads was used on my CPU, it got a bit slow there at one stage.

Yes, replace Denathor with Gandalf.

R

[smoesville]

How about making the knights of Dol Amroth as Gandalfs bodyguard?

[Escorpion]

just suggesting if it is possible to put trebuchets, the army of the dead and rohan

[Metallistic]

just suggesting if it is possible to put trebuchets, the army of the dead and rohan

Trebuchets would be a waste of space and unit slots imho.

Rohan arrives in ~12 minutes, ~2 minutes after the gate has been breached.

About the oathbreakers - I already stated that I am not a big fan... Not to mention that I have already used the maximum amount of armies, which is 8.

where is the battle of helms deep able to donwload ? wow this is so sosososososoosososo cool thanks man.

Still working on it. The one major issue is that the Rohan cavalry reinforcement does not charge down the hill when it arrives, but sits in one place instead.

[Emperor of Hell]

Trebuchets would be a waste of space and unit slots imho.

Rohan arrives in ~12 minutes, ~2 minutes after the gate has been breached.

About the oathbreakers - I already stated that I am not a big fan... Not to mention that I have already used the maximum amount of armies, which is 8.



Still working on it. The one major issue is that the Rohan cavalry reinforcement does not charge down the hill when it arrives, but sits in one place instead.

I could TRY to take a look at the scripting for that. No guarantee I can do it

edit: I can guarantee I can't do it

[Escorpion]

maybe if you make the uruk hai wait like 5 minutes before they attack then that would give enough time for us to manually send the cavalry to the hill, you know? like start normally with the cavalry inside the castle then when you press start battle have the uruk hai wait 5 minutes doing nothis so we can put the cavalry up there, the only problem is that they might get attacked by the uruks when they start atacking, or have them appear 12 minutes after like u did for minas tirth? its a suggestion i dont know if it will work but i was trying to do it yesterday but when the battle started and i ordered the cavalry to go wait there they would get attacked by the uruk hai.
also if u could leave a small cavalry with theoden in the siege itself it would represent the battle of helms depp u know like when theoden says oh this lets comit suicide and do what we can outside, will you include heroes ?

its looking very very good and well done for all of this

[sapped]

holy!!!! that's some epic battle shots!!!

what's ur system spec lol

[Sgt. Noob]

could you ask alreadyded for his fellbeasts to use as reinforcements for mordor ? it may be cool

[Metallistic]

I could TRY to take a look at the scripting for that. No guarantee I can do it

edit: I can guarantee I can't do it

I can't even figure out why it is happening... Maybe the fact that the terrain on which their deployment area is situated is PART of the custom settlement? Not sure really... The battle editor is supposed to generate battle scripts by itself... I will try deploying the cavalry on supposedly "normal" terrain which is not a "part" of the actual model of Helm's Deep. Would suck some major nuts if that is the issue... I really want them to charge down that hill and AI scripting for historical battles looks painful as .

@Noobas, not really eager to include other special units at this stage - just more complications.

also if u could leave a small cavalry with theoden in the siege itself it would represent the battle of helms depp u know like when theoden says oh this lets comit suicide and do what we can outside?

He has his trusty Royal Guard Cavalry unit for this purpose.

[goblinking]

[QUOTE=Metallistic;10750107]Trebuchets would be a waste of space and unit slots imho.

There is a sub mod which creates a minas tirith trebuchet unit that has optimal range and can be effective in seige it also has smaller unit size so it can deploy on the higher levels and hit the morodr seige towers. I guess u need prmission to use it though.

As for the army of the dead thoose things are near unkillable so i dont think it be fair for the eveil factions to add them unless iam misisng an easy way to kill them.

[Keyser_Soze]

[QUOTE=goblinking;10750469]

Trebuchets would be a waste of space and unit slots imho.

There is a sub mod which creates a minas tirith trebuchet unit that has optimal range and can be effective in seige it also has smaller unit size so it can deploy on the higher levels and hit the morodr seige towers. I guess u need prmission to use it though.

As for the army of the dead thoose things are near unkillable so i dont think it be fair for the eveil factions to add them unless iam misisng an easy way to kill them.

near unkillable? they're entirely unkillable!
I've put them up against armies of fully upgraded Saurons and Shelobs and won without a single loss!
In theory, they can die, but effectively, they'll win.

And I think you misunderstand what Metallistic is saying. You only have 20 unit slots to use. It's difficult to reflect the battle of the Pelennor Fields using only around 3000 units. Adding in trebuchets would heavily affect pathfinding for other units, they would be very hard to place and would drastically limit the number of units you can field. It's a shame they can't be properly integrated, as it is also for other elements such as Fell beasts, and troll catapults (destroy the walls, unlike in the movie, and prolong the orc advancement), but these are engine limitations and any attempt to integrate them would look shoddy or give dissatisfying results.

[smoesville]

I know you're going for more film themed battles but would you consider making the reinforcements footsoldiers? It would also be cool if they arrived after a certain amount of time so you had to resist the Uruk-hai until then

[Metallistic]

I know you're going for more film themed battles but would you consider making the reinforcements footsoldiers? It would also be cool if they arrived after a certain amount of time so you had to resist the Uruk-hai until then

The Rohan reinforcements for the Helm's Deep battle are timed to arrive after 25 minutes. Isn't that enough time? Not to mention that the battering ram reaches the gate at minute 15 so you will have to hold the gate for 10 minutes until you get any kind of help.

[smoesville]

The Rohan reinforcements for the Helm's Deep battle are timed to arrive after 25 minutes. Isn't that enough time? Not to mention that the battering ram reaches the gate at minute 15 so you will have to hold the gate for 10 minutes until you get any kind of help.

That seems grand, i didn't know about that That would be a horrifically long wait in the hornburg since there's so many uruks and so many unblockable entrances

[Keyser_Soze]

I know you're going for more film themed battles but would you consider making the reinforcements footsoldiers? It would also be cool if they arrived after a certain amount of time so you had to resist the Uruk-hai until then

If you mean Gondor, I don't believe there were any Gondor reinforcements in the film? What was there before the battle was all there was for Gondor.
As for Rohan, Rohan would have to be mounted.

[smoesville]

If you mean Gondor, I don't believe there were any Gondor reinforcements in the film? What was there before the battle was all there was for Gondor.
As for Rohan, Rohan would have to be mounted.

I do indeed not mean Gondor. I was referring to the books in which Erkenbrand descends with the helmingas from the western hills on foot with Gandalf.

[Escorpion]

Metallistic i dont know if u read what i put before. im saying this because i have no idea about modding and i dont know if it is possible, but couldnt you make the uruk hai (helms deep) wait like 10 minutes before they start attacking. Then make the rohan cavalry (which originally started in the castle) walk to the top of the hill and make them wait there. all of this whilst the battle has started, then after 10 minutes the uruk ahi start advancing against helms deep and ignore the cavalry. then you start the fight blablabla and then at one moment make the cavalry charge down attacking the uruk?
Is it possible?
just trying to help