Shire Autonomy

[LVCIVS IVNIVS BRVTVS]

Since the old Questions thread is closed, I'm tossing this one out to the wind:

I am playing as the Free Peoples of Eriador, and I came across the option to grant the Shire its autonomy. I did so; they did not break off as their own faction or any such nonsense, nor did I notice any other immediate change. Which begs the question; what does granting the Shire it's autonomy do???

[TheDarkKnight]

Since the old Questions thread is closed, I'm tossing this one out to the wind:

I am playing as the Free Peoples of Eriador, and I came across the option to grant the Shire its autonomy. I did so; they did not break off as their own faction or any such nonsense, nor did I notice any other immediate change. Which begs the question; what does granting the Shire it's autonomy do???

Tax exempt? Idk, just guessing...

[Germanicu5]

I'd advise waiting, telling everything will spoil all the fun (and you should surely see at least a few immediate effects).

Regards

[Jean=A=Luc]

Since the old Questions thread is closed.

Huh? It's not closed. Did something happen while I was away?

[lolIsuck]

Huh? It's not closed. Did something happen while I was away?

nope, it was there all the time, only the suggestions thread and the 2.1 one got closed

[Robotic]

i have also been playing Eriador, and done the shire autonomy. Ive had this for about 8-10 turns and it hasnt given me any hobbits. its just wasted money on useless buildings/units. grr

[Maegfaer]

I'd advise waiting, telling everything will spoil all the fun (and you should surely see at least a few immediate effects).

Regards

You could tell us in a Spoiler. Not everyone likes surprises, and as the political leader of a nation in TA:TW, I'd very much like to know all the terms and conditions before granting a settlement autonomy.

[Germanicu5]

You could tell us in a Spoiler. Not everyone likes surprises, and as the political leader of a nation in TA:TW, I'd very much like to know all the terms and conditions before granting a settlement autonomy.

Very well (it's not like it's not suggested in event description):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

You don't grant autonomy: riots
You grant autonomy:
- you can't build or recruit in Shire (only automatic amanagement is allowed)
- every ~15 turns you get reinforcements
- your faction character's get some traits (factionwide or on visiting Michel Delving)
- dragon inn gives +2 trade and +1 population growth
- hobbits will finish roads for you every other turn
You cancel autonomy:
- all reinforcements get withdrawn
- riots
- and even more riots for 5 turns

Regards

[Maegfaer]

Thanks! Yeah well, the in-character description isn't really clear what exactly they do. So Hobbits finish roads instantly in Eriador, very nice. Seems to me like Autonomy is the way to go, at least at the start of the game.

[smoesville]

Thanks! Yeah well, the in-character description isn't really clear what exactly they do. So Hobbits finish roads instantly in Eriador, very nice. Seems to me like Autonomy is the way to go, at least at the start of the game.

Then of course you can impose your iron will upon them

[Germanicu5]

I forgot to mention (it may not be so obvious) - you can grant autonomy to Shire or Fangorn if you own these regions playing any faction.

Also the bonuses are a bit different if you're evil and take Shire.

Regards

[LVCIVS IVNIVS BRVTVS]

Thank you for the replies! I've already experienced some of the benefits, and I am quite pleased! Get back to work Hobbits!

Huh? It's not closed. Did something happen while I was away?

I was mistaken! My apologies! When I checked, I saw that one of the stickied threads was closed, and the Questions thread was pushed to Page 2. Feel free to merge me with the Questions thread!

[Lazy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

You don't grant autonomy: riots
You grant autonomy:
- you can't build or recruit in Shire (only automatic amanagement is allowed)
- every ~15 turns you get reinforcements
- your faction character's get some traits (factionwide or on visiting Michel Delving)
- dragon inn gives +2 trade and +1 population growth
- hobbits will finish roads for you every other turn
You cancel autonomy:
- all reinforcements get withdrawn
- riots
- and even more riots for 5 turns

So...
granting autonomy gives you a bonus
not granting gives you a malus

Do not want to sound silly but... what for is the option then?
If you accept it you get free units and stuff...
If you do not you get a riot...only!
In my opinion after the riot the bonus should be even bigger...
people ( I bet hobbits too ) usually donate less money as you would take from them by force...

[Germanicu5]

It's people's right to rule themselves as they wish, if you suppress this desire, then you can control the region. Otherwise you don't and they build and recruit whatever they like, which possibly means less profit etc.

Regards

[Lazy]

...so... these damn Hobbits won´t get their own settlement! Its mine then...

Thanks!

[HandofJaime]

I have a quick question about Shire Autonomy:

I initially granted autonomy but didn't see the auto-manage actually building anything in the settlements. I sent a Diplomat to Michel Delving and revoked autonomy so I could build the rest of the "town-level" buildings in Hobbiton/Longbottom. Now I want to grant autonomy again. Will I ever get a second chance to grant autonomy or is there only one opportunity to do this?

[tjd123]

I have a quick question about Shire Autonomy:

I initially granted autonomy but didn't see the auto-manage actually building anything in the settlements. I sent a Diplomat to Michel Delving and revoked autonomy so I could build the rest of the "town-level" buildings in Hobbiton/Longbottom. Now I want to grant autonomy again. Will I ever get a second chance to grant autonomy or is there only one opportunity to do this?

Did you set the towns to "auto-manage"? If then you need to check the "buildings only" box. You can also do the same for military units. This is the only way to make the villages actually build stuff.

[HandofJaime]

Did you set the towns to "auto-manage"? If then you need to check the "buildings only" box. You can also do the same for military units. This is the only way to make the villages actually build stuff.

I set the towns to auto-manage and sent a diplomat to the Shire. I got a new request to grant autonomy, which I granted. However, I left the auto-manage on, and two of the provinces started rioting within 2 turns! I was under the impression that after you granted autonomy, you didn't need to station any men there. Is it possible at all to have the Shire provinces actually build things after you grant autonomy? It seems like every time the auto-manager either built or recruited, public order dropped precipitously.

[tjd123]

Like I said, you need to check the construction box. And you should have units stationed within each town. If you have auto-manage on for construction, they SHOULD build your buildings. What is your financial situation like? If your not making to much money, they may not be building for you for the sake of your economy.

[Maha Moggalana]

- hobbits will finish roads for you every other turn

but cost you more money

P/s: by the way , if you get Fangorn autonomy and have Ents , after some turns , the Ents unit in your stack can "get tired for march" and will return to their land (that mean disband) . I say this to any one don't know about it .