Failed Civate votes

**Kscott** · May 01, 2006, 05:21 PM

Does the staff send an explanation of why the person failed and how they could improve? If not I think this is somehting that should be done for those that fail their votes.

**Tom Paine** · May 01, 2006, 05:23 PM

I know I received PMs when my not-civitates failed. It was useful, especially as it let you tell them how to improve.

**Richard the Lionheart** · May 01, 2006, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Kscott

Does the staff send an explanation of why the person failed and how they could improve? If not I think this is somehting that should be done for those that fail their votes.

Yes they do. At least they did so for my clients who failed the vote.

**Spiff** · May 01, 2006, 05:26 PM

Id have thought it would be basicaly the same for everyone.. like "Sorry, this guy doesnt have enough posts/doesnt contribute enough meaningful posts/has too many warnings"

However, reminds me that somewhere along the line we seem to have lost a line in the Syntagma which states you cannot re-nominate someone for a month or so?

**Kscott** · May 01, 2006, 05:26 PM

good news, things one doesnt know when your civs dont fail

**Valus** · May 02, 2006, 02:17 AM

Its standard procedure to send a pm to the member who failed the vote and explain how they could improve their posts etc...
There is always a reason for a failed vote and we try to make sure that the member who is affected knows about it, why he failed and so forth..

**Mímirswell** · May 02, 2006, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Spiff

However, reminds me that somewhere along the line we seem to have lost a line in the Syntagma which states you cannot re-nominate someone for a month or so?

This is implicit. When one PM's a magistrate with a recently denied candidate, they are usually informed if it's too recent and counciled to wait. If the patron chooses to proceed, they will need to demonstrate a substitutive change in order to pass. This allows for flexibility while keeping in the spirit of the original.

**Seleukos** · May 02, 2006, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Valus

Its standard procedure to send a pm to the member who failed the vote and explain how they could improve their posts etc...
There is always a reason for a failed vote and we try to make sure that the member who is affected knows about it, why he failed and so forth..

Sending one to the patron is also a must. I never recieved anything on my recent. Its been 2 weeks.

**Belisarius** · May 02, 2006, 05:50 AM

I think Archer and/or TBN or Justinian normally do it.

**Valus** · May 02, 2006, 07:21 AM

Yeah we tend to leave it to the more senior staff...

Hovewer it might be better if everyone (as in Q's and P's aswell) could be prepared to talk to the would be patron ,and it is unfortunate you Sel havent been "informed"

**Libertine** · May 02, 2006, 12:59 PM

I never got anything about God failing his vote....

**Last Roman** · May 02, 2006, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kscott

Does the staff send an explanation of why the person failed and how they could improve? If not I think this is somehting that should be done for those that fail their votes.

the staff only sends something if you request it. And I agree