Whats with the Spartans?
Hey, guys. This is a great mod (much thanks to Lusted for creating it), but I have one little nitpick.
Whenever I use the Spartans, they seem to be creamed by most anyone.
After finally defeating Epiros/Macedon/Thrace in my Greek Campaign, I entered into war with Rome. I sent a stack of my best troops and they carved up the Italian Peninsula quite nice. Meanwhile, I created every Greek player's dream; an Army of Spartans (of course, they had suitable missile/cavalry support).
My newly created Spartan Army (most of the troops had about 2 bronze chevrons from the temple bonus), was sent to North Italy (near the province of Venetia), and I set them up the bridge. The Romans went after the bait and attacked. I had 8 Spartans, 4 archers, and 2 generals. The Romans had some 1,000 more troops than me but many of them were the ordinary rif-raf of town guards and such and I was on a bridge with supremacy in missile power so I had no great fear.
Sending, most of my Spartans on the main bridge with archers flanking, my generals and 2 Spartans were sent to the alternate pass.
It became a slow grind on the bridge as expected, and my Spartarns were coming off worse in the conflict against Hastai. My flanking attack by generals and reserve Spartans (thankfully the AI never guards against 2 crossings), finally managed to win the battle, but not without some 600 of my Spartans (and a general) dead.
Naturally, I was interested in how my Spartans, matched against equally expirienced troops (the Romans had 3 chevrons at most, a lot of them had no expirience at all), which were of adequet quality at best, with missile fire and cavalry flanking, and on a bridge, could have taken 50% casualties.
So I set up a custom battle between a Roman Praetorian unit, against a Spartan one, both with no chevrons or weapon upgrades, on medium difficulty. The Praetorians had (according to the little box) less attack and defense (not to mention hitpoints) than the Spartans, so I was expecting a Spartan victory.
I tried it many times, with different breaths of formations, guard mode on and off, and etc. each times the Spartans were creamed, they only managed to inflict about 50 kills to the Praetorians while the Spartans were wiped out. At the worst times (with a wide formation and guard mode on), they actually turned their backs to the Praetorians during the fight.
So why are the Spartans (whom the statistics report as far more powerful than the Praetorians [as they dang well should be]) cut apart every time? Sure the pilas do some extra damage, but thats only 10 or 20 kills at most.
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Pillaging and Plundering since 2006
