Serbia + Hungary's Plan -
So Hungarians are taking on 7.000 pikemen who are controlled by Ditus. Then they rejoin me. Treabuchats tear down the wall... That's for now.
GRE + Illyria's Plan -
GRE will defend Skadar w/ Illyrian Army. Meanwhile 7,000 Hoplites will harass the backs of the Hungarians.
The Hungarian Expeditionary Force Arrives to aid they're Serb allies
The force consits of:
Commander Boris Isav
2,000 Elite Heavy Infantry
2,000 Solider Light Infantry
2,000 Horse Archers
2,000 Light Calvary
4,000 Heavy Calvary
2,000 Elite Heavy Cavary
2,000 Elite Medium Infantry
2,000 Archer/Infantry
2,000 Spearmen
1,000 Archers
1,000 Heavy Infantry
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
4,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Lol IK its soviet, but it sounds good with this kind of battle.
Weather: 94 It is a sunny day with enough clouds to give some shade. The weather is perfect for a battle! So now the loser can't complain about the weather if they lose!
Terrain (this is for Verzio harassing the Hungarians + terrain around it): 59 Verzio and his spear men wonder into a field to see the Hungarians. It is pretty much even for both sides. At Skadar, the surrounding land is flat with some hills.
First Roll -
Hungary: 96
Illyrians: 70 The Hungarians see the Hoplites at their camp dining. The General orders his archers and horse archers to rain hell upon the rebels. At first, the arrows tear the camp up into a blood bath. Verzio orders his men to make a shield wall at once. The ambush did not work out as well as the Hungarians hoped.
Casualties
Hungary - 1% lost
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2,000 Elite Heavy Infantry
2,000 Solider Light Infantry
2,000 Horse Archers -220
2,000 Light Calvary
4,000 Heavy Calvary
2,000 Elite Heavy Cavary
2,000 Elite Medium Infantry
2,000 Archer/Infantry
2,000 Spearmen
1,000 Archers
1,000 Heavy Infantry
Illyria
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
7,000 Illyrian Hoplite (Soldier Pikemen)-420
Second Roll:
Hungary: 54
Illyria: 85
The Hungarian commander sees that his arrows were inflicting minimal casualties on the heavily armoured spear wall. He orders his heavy infantry and spear men to attack them head on. The fight went fine at first, but then the flanks of the hoplites began to envelop the attackers..Slaughtering the Hungarians became a quick thing..
Casualties
Hungary - 8% lost
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1,750 Elite Heavy Infantry -250
2,000 Solider Light Infantry
1,880 Horse Archers
2,000 Light Calvary
4,000 Heavy Calvary
2,000 Elite Heavy Cavary
1,450 Elite Medium Infantry [color=red]-550]
2,000 Archer/Infantry
1,000 Spearmen -1000
1,000 Archers
1,000 Heavy Infantry
Illyria 2% Lost
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
6,547 Illyrian Hoplite (Soldier Pikemen)-130
Third Roll -
Hungary: 91
Illyria: 30 The hoplites forgot that there was more than just the infantry component. The archers quickly reached the sides of Illyria and peppered them with a good amount of arrows. The rest of the infantry sprinted to the sides and hammered the hoplites..Their sides began to crumble and the men dropped their spears and went into meele: their weakest position. The cavalry saw their oppertunity to attack, and they charged the rear. It was a box of death..Not many Illyrians made it out alive. Verzio was captured..
Casualties
Hungary - 1% lost
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1,750 Elite Heavy Infantry
2,000 Solider Light Infantry
1,880 Horse Archers
2,000 Light Calvary
4,000 Heavy Calvary
2,000 Elite Heavy Cavary
1,248 Elite Medium Infantry -202
2,000 Archer/Infantry
1,000 Spearmen
1,000 Archers
1,000 Heavy Infantry
Illyria 16% Lost in roll + casualties added in the hammer and anvil attack (you wouldn't surrender in a hammer/anvil until you like die
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1,500 Illyrian Hoplite (Soldier Pikemen) CAPTURED
Skandar Battle The Hungarians bring the captured back to a Serbian base and quickly arrive at the besieged Skandar. They see the Illyrians inside the castle and the Greeks outside with barricades..This is going to be a tough battle.
First Roll -
Serbia+Hungary: 72
Illyria/GRE: 60
The battle begins with an average skirmish. The trebuchets do quite the damage to the Greeks because their barricades were made in such a hurry. Some artillery rounds miss, but still impact the castle wall. The Illyrians inside the castle laugh as they think the battle has already been won. Greeco-Roman archers are able to pick off some of the approaching archers.
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
4,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)-2000
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Second Roll -
Serbia+Hungary: 34
Illyria/GRE: 84
The Hungarians and Serbians underestimated the earthworks the Greeks built..There cavalry charged hoping to do a quick run away strike, but get caught on stakes and spears. The infantry see their friends being slaughtered and run to their aid. They are counter charged by the more discipline and rested Greeks. Archers in the towers pick off the enemies with ease. This siege is not ending good..
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
2,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Second Roll -
Serbia+Hungary: 78
Illyria/GRE: 1 (holy sorry mate that is unlucky as hell)
Just when the Serbs thought they were going to lose the battle, a lucky barrage of artillery fire was able to ruin a section of the earthworks for them to get in. The Serbian cavalry swept in killing many of archers. A counter charge was placed, but the spear men behind them were able to get their in time to repel it. Infantry poured in sections as garrisons had to be pulled off the front line to defend from the infiltrators. It became a hell-hole as soon as they took the towers..John Comnenus II was shot in the eye by an arrow..The rest of the Greeks fled inside the castle.
John II Comnenus DEAD
Legio I ConstantinopleALL DEAD
legatus legionis Titus Pullo
68 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
4,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Legio III Constantinople ALL DEAD IN THE LEGION
legatus legionis Lucius Vorenus
4,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Legio IV Auxilia
2,000 Limitanei Spearmen (Professional Spearmen) DEAD
4,000 Limitanei Infantry (Professional Medium Infantry)
1,081 Limitanei Light Cavalry (Professional Light Cavalry) 919
2,000 Limitanei Horse archers (Professional Horse Archers)
20 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
10 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
2,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Fourth Roll -
Serbia+Hungary: 76
Illyria/GRE: 30
After the massacre outside of the castle, the allies pulled back and bombarded the castle. The Illyrians pulled in front of the Greeks to give them a break. They were scared and astonished on how much men they lost..why did they even come here they all thought. A sudden boom was heard and the front gate and the wall fell. Serbs and Hungarians rushed in with eager wanting to kill everything in sight. The Illyrian formation was indent as soon as they made contact. The reserve lines dropped their weapons and fled. The panic allowed the Serbs and Hungarians to cut down many of them. They arrived to the town square where the Greeks were. The Greeks prepared for a last stand..
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
2,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)
Last Roll -
Serbia+Hungary: 41
Illyria/GRE: 51
The Greeks were tired, and the Illyrians were wishing they never caused the rebellion in the first place. The only reason they were fighting now was for their lives..The Serbs peppered them with arrows killing many of them. After most of the Greeks fell, the allies rushed in killing most of them. Then a loud scream was overheard: it was the Tsars' brother holding a white flag. He surrendered. The Illyrians and the Greeks quickly dropped their weapons.
1500 Pirate Illyrians (Professional Medium Infantry)
1000 Illyrio Javlinmen (Professional Light Infantry)
1500 Holy Illyrian Warriors (Veteran Heavy Infantry)
Legio IV Auxilia
4,000 Limitanei Infantry (Professional Medium Infantry) ALL DEAD
1,081 Limitanei Light Cavalry (Professional Light Cavalry) ALL DEAD
2,000 Limitanei Horse archers (Professional Horse Archers) ALL DEAD
20 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery)ALL DEAD
10 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)ALL DEAD
Legio II Constantinople
legatus legionis Constantius Servillius
2,000 Comitatensis Spearmen(Veteran Spearmen)
2,000 Comitatensis Infantry(Veteran Heavy Infantry)
1,000 Comitantensis Siphōnoroi(Veteran Medium Infantry)
1,000 Comitatensis Archers(Veteran Archer-Infantry Hybrid)
2,000 Greek Cavalry(Veteran Light Cavalry)
2,000 Eastern Horse Archers (Veteran Horse Archers)
1,000 Eastern Cataphracts (Veteran Heavy Cavalry)
40 Scorpions (Elite Light Artillery) ALL DEAD
20 Trebuchet (Elite Heavy Artillery)ALL DEAD
Results -
Serbians and Hungarians win both battles.
Nemanja the Fearless, Tsar's brother is captured
The Rebellion has failed
Greeks are captured
John II Comnenus dead
A lot of it is red idk why..also the GRE plan came into late to be used since people wanted the battle to go sooner. I'll redo if you wish, but that will take a while..
The Hungarian General walks the field of Carnage and let's a single tear fall for his brothers who died today yet embraces the fact that it ended in a victory with joy before ordering the HEF back to Hungary to replaces losses and leaves a letter for the Serb's saying to call in Budapest should they require aid again.
OIC: Is that good first battle so I don't know if I even needed to post that
Battle was done. Soldiers were walking around the battlefield. Skadar is ours. Letter was sent to Greeks :
" Your treachery is something that is shame for all Europe. However, we are asking for exchange of Nemanja and Constantius Servillius. All other prisoners can be ransomed for 700.000. Until then they are going to be imprisoned in some Northern city.
Lazar, Tsar of Serbia.
Big feast is happening in Belgrade, and Illyrians are going to be executed there.
OOC: Since Skadar is in the GRE, am I getting that region as well?
A lot of it is red idk why..also the GRE plan came into late to be used since people wanted the battle to go sooner. I'll redo if you wish, but that will take a while..
Yes you will bloody redo, It is ok for others to send in battle plans late but I send mine in as soon as I have the time and you disregard it. NExt time get my army composition right too, it is not like it isn't in the other thread how you managed to get that wrong is beyond me. Then explain how my barricades can be hastily errected after 3 months of work. You have shown no sense whatsoever in my army positions. I refuse to do anything until you redo that battle with my plans. as far as I am concerned my army is still there.
And I reufse to accept a battle based soley on rolls to determin percentage of casualties, it is retarded in every ing way. That was a certian victory and if you had used any sort of common sence I would have wiped out everyone (ever heard the saying that 1 man on a wall is worth 10 men below?). Anyone who uses dice for a percenateg of losses is only showing their lack of inteliegence because that system favours luck over everything, why send 100,000 men when 10 men can still cause 25% casualties?
Also Spartan, you get until this is redon with my plans, it is not like I waited a month to send them, I sent them as soon as I had a chance.
Last edited by Pinkie Pie; October 24, 2011 at 04:37 AM.
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Come on dude, that was clear victory, sometimes you have luck, sometimes you don't. If we redo the battle, I won't get this good rolls, so I refuse that.
You can have the rolls, they are not the issue. The issue is that my plan was ignored, my army composition was ignored and that rolls being used to calculate the percentage of losses is beyond stupid.
EG:
I have 100 men
You have 100,000 men
I roll a 100 kiling 25,000 men
Does that even make sence to you? The sheer concept that a roll can be used to determin losses in that way turns battles into a pile of horse . I might as well just send in waves of 1,000 men because eventualy I will get a roll that kills off your entire army.
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No, it was not, in no way was it realistic becuase it ignored everything I have posted. I am not bothered by the loss of the general, I am not bothered with the loss of an army as both are easy enough to get back. The fact that cookie ignored the three posts that clearly show what men I have in that battle, that he ignored that I have sent 3 months reinforcing the area not 3 days (admitidly not relevant but it would not be a hastily built defence), that he ignored my battle plan and that he used no brains whatsoever. At no point does it show what units are being used, from this you would think that I had no hope of winning because I apparantly mobbed forward with everything in one giant mass.
Last edited by Pinkie Pie; October 24, 2011 at 04:59 AM.
"I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
"Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
"She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
"More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
"Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"
None of this would have happened if there was someone compitent in charge of the battle. My battle plans would have changed a lot becuase my army was not formed in one blob. I will show you some parts that are clearly showing his incompitence.
The battle begins with an average skirmish. The trebuchets do quite the damage to the Greeks because their barricades were made in such a hurry. (One, where are my artillery?, they would be more than enough to handle yours and 2, how can my defences be hastily errected when I spent 3 months on them?)
The Serbian cavalry swept in killing many of archers. A counter charge was placed, but the spear men behind them were able to get their in time to repel it. Infantry poured in sections as garrisons had to be pulled off the front line to defend from the infiltrators. It became a hell-hole as soon as they took the towers..John Comnenus II was shot in the eye by an arrow..The rest of the Greeks fled inside the castle. (Now this is the big one, first how did you even get close to my archers, they are behind my entire army with all of my cavalry guarding their sides, second if you got through my earthworks in this part but not the city walls how did you catch the towers, third, there is only one defence, right at the front so why would I have to pull men off the front line to defend the front line?)
JHell he even ignored the Illyrian plan because they were going tostrike at the back of the enemy when they engaged mine not attack on their own. Even if they weren't thw plan here says they were going to harass the enemy not engage them in battle which they clearly ended up doing.
They arrived to the town square where the Greeks were. The Greeks prepared for a last stand. (This goes against the last one in every way, how can I have a last stand and surrender?)
Then a loud scream was overheard: it was the Tsars' brother holding a white flag. He surrendered. The Illyrians and the Greeks quickly dropped their weapons. (Why would I surrrender when they did, my men are professional soldiers and theirs are pirates and raiders with some militia thrown in).
Last edited by Pinkie Pie; October 24, 2011 at 05:11 AM.
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"Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
"She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
"More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
"Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"
Ok, as we had already switched to a new system that has no dice rolling in this is completely pointless. Cookie should never have done the battle this way.
"I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
"Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
"She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
"More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
"Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"
1. You didn't understand my commands and didn't even take into consideration Martins plan.
2. Keep the rolls, just the battle would have added up diffrently if you had thaken by the plan.
3. Verzo was there to harras and defend the villegers, never to endgage in battle properly.
4. our king wasn't tsars brother xD that was serbs leader. Illyrians were led by Agirrus and Ditus in Skadar and Verzo leding Gorrila troops.
5. Hungarians been banned for multi-accounts (-.-') so I suspect his armys are disregared as he was only here for one battle and nothing more.
6. death counts for all rolls would be diffrent, and for first 2 rolls would be very diffrent.
7. you ignored my Hit-and-Run tactic that my Pirates and javlinmen would be doing, why?
Well without the Hungarians this battle will be quite different.
"I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
"Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
"She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
"More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
"Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"
Battle of Skadar
sorry mate that is unlucky as hell)
Originally Posted by c00ki3
