30 years war mod

[puelladeluxe]

WOW those cuirasser models are the best units i have seen so far in any total war mod!

[wangrin]

Hi Adrian, you've done awesome models

Maybe will you interesting to use this model as a base to create the cuirassier from Panzerschreck's picture :

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You can download the model here : Downloads > Empire: Total War > Skins & Models > EARLY XVIIIth DANISH MODELS

A link to an internet site about XVI and XVIIth century armies : The Spanish “Tercios” 1525 - 1704

[mattebubben]

depends on the size of the map.

It will use the vanilla map as there is no way to make new campaign maps

[panzerschreck]

SOME LOADING SCREENS FOR THE MOD in high resolution:



and these:

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here

[Pinarius]

Armies during the biggest 17th century didn't really have a regular uniform, soldiers wore what they could get their hands on, right? I believe that the battle flag was the most important thing the armies had, as it showed who your friends and your enemies were.

The armies could be distinguished by letting their soldiers wear colorful sashes, armbands and feathers for hats and helmets, like for example, yellow-blue for Sweden, white-blue for the Catholic League.

[DochtorGajo]

How do you simulate armour? Is there something lile this in game?

[Pinarius]

sashes and armbands could look like this:

[Freelancer Tex]

How do you simulate armour? Is there something lile this in game?

Yes,there is

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[General Brewster]

One more question will the flags be super-sized ?
We Dutch used huge flags..

[panzerschreck]

One more question will the flags be super-sized ?
We Dutch used huge flags..

I think that bigger flags is a good idea!

[Primergy]

Thank god, that i already made the Bigger Flag Mod (pics aren't visible atm). You can use it Adrian .

[Pinarius]

other pictures that could be used for loading screens:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Marstrand.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_Neunburg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Oppenheim.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_Carducho.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...bei_Lützen.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Nördlingen.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._I_in_Prag.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pfen_1622.jpeg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...de_Juliers.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...algado_001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_ingleses.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_de_velde.JPG

[General Brewster]

Thank god, that i already made the Bigger Flag Mod (pics aren't visible atm). You can use it Adrian .

The entire page isn't avalible.

A example :

[Primergy]

The entire page isn't avalible.

Then take a look yourself in the "visual mod thread" i'm to lazy to correct the link right now^^

[General Brewster]

You lazy son of a good modder lol.

[adrian74]

hi guys sorry for the delay in replying had a few pc probs so could not get online . But all fixed now.

Below screen shot of the new trousers think they look passable now And a new model too also most completed in milksahpe of a electoral saxony cuirassier .

hi Oggie more a bit of a change still working on models though for RV thanks too.

Hi Port once i got them sorted will let you know can not remember if i rep you last time but will rep you again anyway for your offer .


Hi Ensis1410 depends what you mean by fix the husarie can nit fix the lance on him even though i can give him a lance like those for simple reason when they are in melee they stab with lance and the lance would then be upside down he be stabbing at them with the part in his hand ,due to the animation hope that makes sense .

Hi panzerschreck the saxon cuirassier does look good and did see his pic before i had pc probs and had started to make model for him you can see him below in the screen shot in milkshape but still got to work on his textures .Thanks too for the pictures for loading screens +Rep for your help too .

Hi Pinarius i will be using the existing factions in etw might beable to activate a few more german states if they exist in emerging factions list . I will look into grouping factions but i am hoping to keep them seperate states and maybe just have catholic league standard troops available to cathlic german states be a bit cheaper but not as good say as their own troops available to them . Yes i was thinking about faction flashing plumes sashes and maybe one arm on the models so you can tell they a different facion might beable to see in video with swedish pikemen i had started todo that .thanks too for the links for possible loading screens also + Rep

thanks Rolling Thunder and puelladeluxe glad you like it so far.

Thank you wangrin your model does look good i had already started on working on the saxon cuirassier so i will see how the one i have started to make works in game first but would like to use your base model too for another unit i have in mind will give full credit too thanks and +Rep for your offer very much apreciated .


Hi General Brewster had not thought about flags or size of flags but looks like Primergy has already sorted out that question the link is
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=471916

Hi Primergy thank you too does look good +Rep too for allowing me to use it and will give credit too . I will make you a special model for one of your overhauls when i have time too as an extra thank you but upto you if you use him

Hope i have answered everything

takecare for now
adrian

[panzerschreck]

hi Adrian did you receive my private message?

+ battleflags of the 30 years war:

http://www.battle-flag.com/thirty-ye...ame-flags.html

Some pics I took from this forum

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pics of king Louise A.

here



Polish citizen musketeer from Danzig, first half of the 17th century:



Swedish army, middle 17th century:



Swedish officer, middle 17th century:



Ottoman soldiers, description on the plate:



Ottoman soldiers, description on the plate:



Austrian pikemen, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer and halberdier, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian officers, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian army, from first to second half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer and officer, middle 17th century:



Austrian drummer, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian officer, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian arquebuser, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian trumpeter, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian artilleryman, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian cuirassier, second half of the 17th century:



Austrian cuirassier, second half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer, second half of the 17th century:




German pikeman, second half of the 17th century:





Croatian officer, middle 17th century:



French musketeers (frirst of Louis XIII's, second of early Louis XIV's):



Swedish halberdier, middle 17th century:



Polish halberdier officer, first half of the 17th century:



Spanish ensign and musketeer, first half of the 17th century:




Spanish musketeer, first half of the 17th century:




English cuirassier, early 17th century:



English cavalryman, middle 17th century:




Cossack pikeman, middle 17th century:

From Maximinius

Armours and related items

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< Pikeman armour

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< Armour, a modern-day copy maybe

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< German armour, around 1625

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< German manufacture, around 1625

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< Pikeman armour

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< Italian armour (Florence), 1610

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< German manufacture, second quarter or the century

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< Dutch (or Savoy)

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< French armour

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< Dutch helmet

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< Italian helmet

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Weapons

< Venetian Schiavona sword, 1630

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< Swiss cavalry sword

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< Italian infantry sword

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< English mortuary sword

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< Scottish claymore basket sword

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< Spada da lato composita

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< Venetian cutlass

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< German halberds

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< German Dussack swords

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from Matija

croatian soldiers and mercenaries

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Croatian Cavalryman, 1630:


Croatian Cavalrymen,1618-1648:


Croatian dragoon:


Croatian arquebussiers, 1618-1648:



Croatian officer, 1618-1648:


Croatian light horseman, arround 1645:


Croatian mounted arquebussiers, 1646:


Horseman in service of Nikola Zrinski, 1646:


Croatian horseman, 1630-1:


Croatian cavalry officer, 1618-1648:


Musketeer of black regiment, 1626:


Infantrymen, member of Imperial protection, 1643:


Various cavalrymen, 1618-1648:




in this war there was a lot of Croat mercenaries fighting mostly for Habsburgs but not just for them

from dr.Croffer

DUTCH ARMY

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Dutch Musketier


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Dutch Haakbusser


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Dutch Ruyteren


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Dutch Schutters (militia)


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Dutch Bannercarrier


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Dutch Piekiers


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Gheappoicteerde Kurassier


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Scottish Arquebusiers (as mercenaries)


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Here are some battle shots for inspiration. They're from a reenaction of a battle of the 80 Years War a few decades before the Thirty Years War.


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[General Brewster]

hi Adrian did you receive my private message?

+ battleflags of the 30 years war:

http://www.battle-flag.com/thirty-ye...ame-flags.html

Some pics I took from this forum

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pics of king Louise A.

here



Polish citizen musketeer from Danzig, first half of the 17th century:



Swedish army, middle 17th century:



Swedish officer, middle 17th century:



Ottoman soldiers, description on the plate:



Ottoman soldiers, description on the plate:



Austrian pikemen, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer and halberdier, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian officers, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian army, from first to second half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer and officer, middle 17th century:



Austrian drummer, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian officer, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian arquebuser, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian trumpeter, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian artilleryman, first half of the 17th century:



Austrian cuirassier, second half of the 17th century:



Austrian cuirassier, second half of the 17th century:



Austrian musketeer, second half of the 17th century:




German pikeman, second half of the 17th century:





Croatian officer, middle 17th century:



French musketeers (frirst of Louis XIII's, second of early Louis XIV's):



Swedish halberdier, middle 17th century:



Polish halberdier officer, first half of the 17th century:



Spanish ensign and musketeer, first half of the 17th century:




Spanish musketeer, first half of the 17th century:




English cuirassier, early 17th century:



English cavalryman, middle 17th century:




Cossack pikeman, middle 17th century:

From Maximinius

Armours and related items

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< Pikeman armour

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< Armour, a modern-day copy maybe

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< German armour, around 1625

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< German manufacture, around 1625

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< Pikeman armour

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< Italian armour (Florence), 1610

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< German manufacture, second quarter or the century

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< Dutch (or Savoy)

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< French armour

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< Dutch helmet

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< Italian helmet

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Weapons

< Venetian Schiavona sword, 1630

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< Swiss cavalry sword

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< Italian infantry sword

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< English mortuary sword

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< Scottish claymore basket sword

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< Spada da lato composita

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< Venetian cutlass

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< German halberds

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< German Dussack swords

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from Matija

croatian soldiers and mercenaries

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Croatian Cavalryman, 1630:


Croatian Cavalrymen,1618-1648:


Croatian dragoon:


Croatian arquebussiers, 1618-1648:



Croatian officer, 1618-1648:


Croatian light horseman, arround 1645:


Croatian mounted arquebussiers, 1646:


Horseman in service of Nikola Zrinski, 1646:


Croatian horseman, 1630-1:


Croatian cavalry officer, 1618-1648:


Musketeer of black regiment, 1626:


Infantrymen, member of Imperial protection, 1643:


Various cavalrymen, 1618-1648:




in this war there was a lot of Croat mercenaries fighting mostly for Habsburgs but not just for them

from dr.Croffer

DUTCH ARMY

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here
Dutch Musketier


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Dutch Haakbusser


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Dutch Ruyteren


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Dutch Schutters (militia)


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Dutch Bannercarrier


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Dutch Piekiers


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Gheappoicteerde Kurassier


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Scottish Arquebusiers (as mercenaries)


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Here are some battle shots for inspiration. They're from a reenaction of a battle of the 80 Years War a few decades before the Thirty Years War.


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you're a good researcher. nice work on those dutchie's

[Kaunitz]

I'm very impressed by the model, adrian74!

Interesting equipment-photos, panzerschreck! If you ever happen to visit Austria and Graz, you have to pay a visit to the armoury there which is - according to wikipedia - the largest existing original armoury in the whole world (due to the need and responsibility of the Styrian estates to defend against the Ottomans). The interesting thing is that the arsenal building is "original" and that all the stuff is stored/arranged in the way that it has been stored historically. The biggest part of the pieces there stem from the 17th century and I find it interesting for it's mass-ware, not precious/ceremonial armour only. Example-photo of the page linked above:


(a google-picture-search on "Landeszeughaus Graz" also brings about lots of examples of 17th century armour)

As for the other pictures (also loading screens), I'd stick to contemporary artwork. I'm not very fond of 19th and 20th century pictures that supposedly show soldiers of anachronistic nations (What the heck was an "Austrian" soldier in the early 17th century? And what exactly on him does make him look "austrian"?...). It's also funny to see that the painter of the "Croatian Cavalryman, 1630", as well as the painter of the "Croatian light horseman, arround 1645" have both taken the "Croatian horseman, 1630-1"-dummy (which is standing in the military museum in Vienna) as their model. (just as a sidenote looking at him: the german as well as the french word for "tie" (Krawatte/cravate) refers to the croatian fashion)

Do you already know what factions the mod will feature, adrian74? As for the models, I think you don't need to fall a victim to a "nation-customisation-freak-out". Pretty much the soldiers of all factions looked the same. Sure, some variation would be nice, and the middle/eastern troops need their distinctive look, but apart from that, I think you can save a lot of time and work.

[adrian74]

hi all just a quick post as need my bed but will get back to all the above later .
model i am working on below
takecare for now
adrian