Same style map as Rome:Total War

**God** · April 12, 2006, 10:46 AM

It has recently been announced that the campaign map will be the same style as in Rome, not like in the older Medieval and Shogun. I want to know who thinks this is a good thing, because I personally preferred the old map because it added strategy and you really had to think about whos land you passed whereas in Rome you can tresspass through other factions' land without warning.

**Lusted** · April 12, 2006, 11:09 AM

I prefer RTWs map to the style of map in STW and MTw, simply because i feel it makes things much more interesting, instead of having one mapfor a province, you could have many as it all depended upon what kind of terrain you were fighting on. The RTW map allows you to set ambushes, and use chokepoints, and it allows you to choose where to fight, some of the time.

**Mikelus Trento** · April 12, 2006, 11:20 AM

Personally, I much preferred the detail of the Rome map over the previous two. For me anyways it was much more immersive.

**iKossu** · April 12, 2006, 12:08 PM

Voted for Rome: Total War. That's because it is more accurate and with improvements it will be great. The current situation is somewhat 50:50.

**Muizer** · April 12, 2006, 12:30 PM

I think it's a good thing because I've spent quite some time figuring out how the RTW map and terrain generation works and I'd rather not have to start from scratch again for MTWII.

**Lord Tomyris** · April 12, 2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by God

It has recently been announced that the campaign map will be the same style as in Rome, not like in the older Medieval and Shogun. I want to know who thinks this is a good thing, because I personally preferred the old map because it added strategy and you really had to think about whos land you passed whereas in Rome you can tresspass through other factions' land without warning.

I found that the RTW map added more strategy- at least, strategy on a level of greater realism.

**Logue** · April 12, 2006, 01:55 PM

As sad as t is too admit i'd go for the rome map, although the mtw/stw map had more class it did not have the strategic aspect that rome does.

**lila-laune-bär** · April 12, 2006, 02:26 PM

Technically Rome's map is better. Gameplaywise Medieval's map is better. You may ask why? Because Rome's AI never knew how to use and act on the map, whereas Medieval's map was much more simpler as thus easier to use for the AI.

**The True Roman** · April 12, 2006, 02:27 PM

I like Rome's more sence it was more reallistic and with proper AI it can it can be much better then MTW or STW had ever done.

**Tostig** · April 12, 2006, 02:41 PM

I found M:TW/S:TW's campaign map to be more fun - it did abstract strategy a fair amount but it also made it more understandable and easier to control.

**John I Tzimisces** · April 12, 2006, 05:33 PM

Rome by a hair. If the campaign AI is fixed and there aren't stupid bugs like the save/load siege bug, and the AI's lack of naval invasion logic, or being able to launch an effective invasion...or use it's best generals in the right places...

**VaeVictis** · April 12, 2006, 05:47 PM

As far as graphical aesthetics go, I would say the Rome map. Things were a little less cluttered and you could queue up movements, etc. so the overall experience was less cluttered and complex.

However, as far as the AI and pathfinding was concerned, the MTW map is still superior in that right, albeit a bit rigid.

If they can combine the better aspects of both, I would be very happy.

**Mathias** · April 12, 2006, 05:49 PM

I like the rome map better, not just because it looks better, but it adds to strategy and realism

**Trajan** · April 12, 2006, 06:26 PM

Well RTW was my introduction to the Total War series so I only have experience with that map but the majority of Total War veterans say that the RTW map is the best one out of the series so I'm happy that CA is sticking with that.

**John I Tzimisces** · April 12, 2006, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Trajan

Well RTW was my introduction to the Total War series so I only have experience with that map but the majority of Total War veterans say that the RTW map is the best one out of the series so I'm happy that CA is sticking with that.

If RTW used the same type map as MTW, basically, the AI wouldn't seem as dumb. It is simpler, easier to navigate, but doesn't look as good, basically. Also, easier to run on laptops

**Logue** · April 12, 2006, 07:52 PM

The only problem i had with the mtw map was that u couldn't put your troops on an allied territory with out invading it. Thats the only problem.

**Scarlett Letterman** · April 12, 2006, 08:32 PM

Some sort of combining of the two would be jawesome.

**hsimoorb** · April 12, 2006, 10:01 PM

MTW's campaign map was strategicaly empty. One of MTW's great failings, though I do not blame them for it.

**Sétanta** · April 12, 2006, 10:04 PM

RTWs map is far better

**Space Voyager** · April 13, 2006, 05:01 AM

I agree that RTW map is far better. The options it adds are the only real addition (beside from 3D units) that RTW introduced! Limited traveling, DIFFERENT travelling speeds for cavalry/infantry/siege_equipment, adding agents to armies, ambushes etc. etc.. I couldn't go back to the old system. And I enjoyed both MTW1 and Shogun immensly.