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    New poll conducted by GPO for MEGA channel:

    ND: 18,2%
    PASOK: 14,2%
    KKE: 8%
    SYRIZA: 6,2%
    Democratic Left: 5,9%
    Independent Greeks: 7% (!)
    LAOS: 4%
    Xrisi Augi: 3,1
    Democratic Alliance: 2,5
    Ecologists 1,5
    Don't know/haven't decided yet: 19,2% (!)
    Don't care/won't vote: 10,2%
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    KKE FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    Today, Iran declared she halted oil exports to Greece due to unpaid debts
    The Iranians really should have seen that coming. Not too bright then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    Today, Iran declared she halted oil exports to Greece due to unpaid debts and EU decision.


    Link?!?


    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    New poll conducted by GPO for MEGA channel:

    ND: 18,2%
    PASOK: 14,2%
    KKE: 8%
    SYRIZA: 6,2%
    Democratic Left: 5,9%
    Independent Greeks: 7% (!)
    LAOS: 4%
    Xrisi Augi: 3,1
    Democratic Alliance: 2,5
    Ecologists 1,5
    Don't know/haven't decided yet: 19,2% (!)
    Don't care/won't vote: 10,2%


    This is the previous one:
    http://www.newsbomb.gr/ekloges-2012/...-13-5-to-pasok

    ND: 20,8%
    PASOK: 13,5%
    KKE: 8%
    SYRIZA: 6%
    Democratic Left: 7,8%
    Independent Greeks: 7,1%
    LAOS: 2,9%
    Xrisi Augi: 2,1%
    Democratic Alliance: 2,1%
    Ecologists 2,5%
    Don't know/haven't decided yet: 22%

    So, considering that both parties have people with party IDs etc that will go vote while the supporters of "All suck" won't vote and considering those that will eventually move back to the big parties (and will later curse the day) I expect ND at 30% in the elections and PASOK at 20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post

    Link?!?
    I don't think it will happen immediately. Valon Saraqini, Macedonia's Economic Minister, was talking about this yesterday and said we won't have any problems until June because the oil supply from Iran to Greece is guaranteed until then.
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    And after June?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    And after June?


    We utilize the pan-Slavic hotline and phone Russia (yesterday we got Lukoil to open another station here). I don't think this'll work for you, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post

    Link?!?
    Even your own EKATHIMERINI reports, lol.
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    Well, I didn't actually look
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    This bloody anti Iran crusade led by some vested interests in the EU. Is going to cost us all dearly.
    Embargo,s on oil and trade while we are in a recession, How is that going to help the eurozone get out of its problems.
    Oil prices will rise despite what Obama says about enough oil to go around.
    Libya, Nigeria,Iraq,Sudan are all having production problems.
    Ok, Invest in oil shares or futures maybe there is away to make money?

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    ^What do you believe are those vested interests within the EU?
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    High on my paranoid list Thorn would be Britain and France together with their oil companys.

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    But France had great contracts in Iran. Sarko is in love with the US though. It was one of his main campaign slogans even. He sure is no De Gaulle. Merkel also is an American sidekick. She said she would join the second Iraq war back then. Shes no Schröder.

    Bottomline: USA appeasement. I dont believe Obamas crocodile tears either. The man looks very sick and old lately, and I think because what hes doing is taking a severe toll on him. Sad...
    Last edited by Thorn777; April 10, 2012 at 03:05 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    New poll conducted by GPO for MEGA channel:

    ND: 18,2%
    PASOK: 14,2%
    KKE: 8%
    SYRIZA: 6,2%
    Democratic Left: 5,9%
    Independent Greeks: 7% (!)
    LAOS: 4%
    Xrisi Augi: 3,1
    Democratic Alliance: 2,5
    Ecologists 1,5
    Don't know/haven't decided yet: 19,2% (!)
    Don't care/won't vote: 10,2%
    Golden Dawn has 3,1%. That scares me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt. Stavroforon View Post
    KKE FTW.
    No. Just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes. View Post
    Golden Dawn has 3,1%. That scares me.
    And rising. But why is that negative? Do you honestly think that they are more dangerous than ND and PASOK that have sold us to the IMF?
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    Yes. Far more.
    Like Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    And rising. But why is that negative? Do you honestly think that they are more dangerous than ND and PASOK that have sold us to the IMF?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L40kQfnFuik

    I know your political situation is bad, but it's much better than having Golden Dawn rule. It's very worrying to see that they are gaining in popularity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes. View Post
    No. Just no.
    Are the KKE still our friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Yes. Far more.
    Like Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler dangerous.
    This is a dirty war conducted by PASOK and ND that wants you to believe they are Nazis. Golden Dawn's president has publicly declared that he is against Nazism and that he'll demand German reparations for the destructions and slaughters of 1941-44. The truth is that they are pushing for the solving of the Macedonian, the North Epirus and the Aegean issues as well as the immigration one. In my book, their cause is fine with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acco View Post
    Are the KKE still our friends?

    Nikos Zachariadis:

    The first move of KKE will be to renounce the name Macedonia from our province and hand it over to your country as well as legalize all the illegal immigrants living in Greece. That's why they won't get my vote. Being anti-IMF does not mean that I do not care for our foreign policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    And rising. But why is that negative? Do you honestly think that they are more dangerous than ND and PASOK that have sold us to the IMF?
    Because they are almost a terrorist organization. Beating up immigrants, communists and stuff. Oh, and they are fascists. Have you read what they want to do in schools for example?

    KKE is a joke! It's stuck in the past and does not cooperate with any other leftist parties, not to mention thatthey don't actually want to be in the government. They just like to whine while doing nothing. Now if the (actual) left was to cooperate and agree on some basic things, I wouldn't have any problem, and I bet that many people would support them.
    Last edited by Hobbes; April 11, 2012 at 08:08 AM.

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    Interesting, according to this http://translate.google.se/translate...%25CE%25BF%25C that Golden Dawn party have 5 % and the communists 11 % .

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