Making Minor Clans Playable

[Dwizzle]

*Notice: This is my first attempt ever for creating a tutorial, I will try and make this as easy as possible so it isnt so hard to do this yourself ok guys. Also have not tested out the Ashikaga, not sure how they will work. Wako Pirates and the Europe faction require more work if you want to get them to play and I was not able to figure out how.

*Be sure to make copies of the following files-- data.pack-patch.pack-patch5.pack

*If you wish to see some pics and some discussion go here-- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=480831&page=5

*Things you will need: Pack file manager 1.6.7 and ESF Editor 1.4.6 not 1.4.8 because the newer one has problems with saving and the other doesn't, trust me.

-ESF Editor 1.4.6 Download- http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_...75&linkid=8783
-Pakc File Manager 1.6.7 Download- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3249

Hey there guys, have you ever wanted to play as the Imagawa or the Ashikaga? Well so did I and thats why I am making this tutorial so you can do it yourself and have as much fun with it as I have. Be sure to read step by step on how to do this and your sure not to mess up !!

Step 1: -First open up your Pack File Manager and once you do go up to file and select open... after that go to your Shogun 2 folder-- Steam/Steamapps/Common/TotalwarShogun2/Data/Patch5.pack

-Once you have that open it should look like this-- +patch5.pack

-press where the plus sign is and it should look like this-- -patch5.pack
+animations
+battleterrain
+benchmarks
+campaign
+campaign_maps
+campaigns

-press the the plus sign by campaigns and it should look like this-- -campaigns
+jap_shogun
+tut_shogun
-now open up the jap_shogun and it should look like this-- -campaigns
-jap_shogun
scripting.lua
startpos.esf

-click on the startpos.esf and go up to Choose a Pack Action and select Extract Selected and extract the startpos.esf file to wherever you want

-it will then show up were you put it at as a campaign folder

-now close the packmanager with the pack5.patch and open up esfeditor 1.4.6

Step 2: -Once the esf editor is open go to file and select Open Esf and select the startpos.esf file that you just extracted

-when you open it it should look like this-- +/startpos.esf

-press the plus sign and it should look like this-- -/startpos.esf
+CAMPAIGN_STARTPOS

-now open up the CAMPAIGN_STARTPOS-- -/startpos.esf
-CAMPAIGN_STARTPOS
build
+SAVE_GAME_HEADER
+CAMPAIGN_PREOPEN_MAP_INFO
+CAMPAIGN_ENV

-Now open up the CAMPAIGN_PREOPEN_MAP_INFO-- -CAMPAIGN_PREOPEN_MAP_INFO
+CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP
DATE
+VICTORY_CONDITIONS_OPTIONS
+FACTION_INFOS
+REGION_OWNERSHIPS_BY_THEATER

-Now open up the CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP-- -CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP
+PLAYERS_ARRAY

-Now there are 48 PLAYERS_ARRAYs each with this inside it-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
True
False

-Now only the major clans (oda, mori, etc) have True in the middle while the minors have False

-Now the Trues that are in the middle, set those to false to look like this-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
False
False

-Do this for all 11 major clans if you have the Hattori and Ikko-Ikki
*Hattori in the esf editor is called iga_ninja

-Now pick the minor clan you wish to play and change the middle False to True-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
False-->True
False

-Now press the minus sign now next to the CAMPAIGN_PLAYER_SETUP

-Now open up the FACTION_INFOS-- -FACTION_INFOS
FACTION_INFOS
*Also 48 of these

-Click on the 2nd FACTION_INFOS and it should look like this-- Faction

True
True
0
start_pos_faction...
data/ui/flags/faction
1
random_localisati...
System.Byte[]

-Simply for all major clans change the 2 Trues to False

-For the minor clan you want to play change the 2 Falses to True

-Now close up the FACTION_INFOS and then the CAMPAIGN_PREOPEN_MAP_INFO since you won't need that open anymore

-Open up the CAMPAIGN_ENV by pressing the plus sign next to it and it should look like this
-CAMPAIGN_ENV
+CAMPAIGN_SETUP
CAMPAIGN_SETUP_LOCAL
+CAMPAIGN_CAMERA_MANAGER
+CAMPAIGN_MODEL

-Now open up the CAMPAIGN_SETUP-- -CAMPAIGN_SETUP
+CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP
+cAMPAIGN_SETUP_OPTIONS

-Open up CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP-- -CAMPAIGN_PLAYERS_SETUP
+PLAYERS_ARRAY

-Open up the PLAYERS_ARRAY

-Now open up each PLAYERS_ARRAY (first 9 are major clan, other 2 are scattered)-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
True
False

-Now only the major clans (oda, mori, etc) have True in the middle while the minors have False

-Now the Trues that are in the middle, set those to false to look like this-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
False
False

-Do this for all 11 major clans if you have the Hattori and Ikko-Ikki
*Hattori in the esf editor is called iga_ninja

-Now pick the minor clan you wish to play and change the middle False to True-- -PLAYERS_ARRAY
faction
False
False-->True
False
-Now go to file and save you progess and esc from the esf editor 1.4.6

Step 3: -Now open up your Pack File Manager and open up the data.pack
*make sure you take the checked mark next to CA Packs Are Read Only off it or you cant replace any of the files

-Now instead of going to jap_shogun you go to tut_shogun

-Simply replace the startpos file within the tut_shogun with the modified startpos.esf that you did and press save (saving may take awhile and sometimes even crashes and deletes your data.pack make sure to make a copy of it)

-After is saves open up the patch.pack with your Pack File Manager and do the same process

-Save and then start Shogun 2, once loaded click on the tutorial and then press the Chosokabe Main Tutorial and there you can now play your minor clan (make sure to save and load to make sure it worked)

*Please be sure to leave some pics so I can see some of your campaigns and have fun and if you have any questions comment here and if I dont answer PM me ok

*Now I am not going to be here for much longer so if you have questions ask fast, I am going to basics for the military here at the end of this month so I have limited time to answer questions

[Dwizzle]

Hey I am done talking about this, go to mitches mod and not mine. His tutorial and way of making all clans playable is easier than my method. Truly guys have fun with playing the minor clans and such.

edit: hey guys just ignore the post above, I over reacted a bit and I do apologize for my actions. I will help for the time being I hope you guys enjoy the mod and my tutorial. Leave some pics showing off your campaign.

Here is the link to my tutorial: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...4#post10271904

pics on all pages but 5

[Lionheart11]

pics or it didnt happen lol

[Dwizzle]

Hope those are good enough for you guys. First pic is of the diplomacy screen and as you can see alot of other clans dont like me . The 2nd picture is me chasing down the enemy with cav and I got that cav from bribing the enemy with metsuke.

[Banzai!!!]

Wow this the first time I have seen anyone to actually have done this on shogun 2

[Dwizzle]

it was not easy to crack, took me days to figure this out because like alot of people I want to play as other clans... and I have to say this is the most fun I have had with the game so far and once you understand how to do it it will take no more than 5 minutes to get everything around.

[Taishō]

But why Amako? ^^

[Avatar13]

Interesting, would be cool playing as any clan you'd like...

[Freiherr von Hahl]

please try ashikaga, i want to know if they are playable or that a bug occures like with the papal states in Medieval II

[Akaie]

please try ashikaga, i want to know if they are playable or that a bug occures like with the papal states in Medieval II

Tying the Ashikaga clan to the Realm Divide mechanic seems like unnecessary work. I'm willing to bet you 20 bazoogles they are just as easy (or hard) to unlock as any other clan on the campaign map.

[jp1747]

Why did this become such an issue with Shogun 2? I'm assuming it's because CA decided to start selling factions. We have mods that unlock all factions for Empire and Napoleon, but from the looks of things it's become much harder to do.

[Dwizzle]

But why Amako? ^^

well I find there history to be most interesting from all the other clans, I love there starting location and colors... so pretty much everything about them.

change title to include tutorial, its a bit misleading

this isnt a tutorial since I have given no instructions quite yet, a tutorial will be released with in 2-5 days. The reason for this is that I want to play through an entire campaign just to make sure everything works right because I dont want you guys facing any bugs... I want it to be perfect.

please try ashikaga, i want to know if they are playable or that a bug occures like with the papal states in Medieval II

dont worry I will, that is a clan alot of people are dying to see and if it is buggy I will do my best to fix that. I wish to however play through my amako campaign first then I will release data, pics etc of the clan itself. Sound good?

Tying the Ashikaga clan to the Realm Divide mechanic seems like unnecessary work. I'm willing to bet you 20 bazoogles they are just as easy (or hard) to unlock as any other clan on the campaign map.

yeah I kind of expect this also, but this is kind of what worries me. I have no way of knowing if the realm divide even works since why would they declare it on themselves and I also fear trigering it could make the game crash. But not sure quite yet.

Why did this become such an issue with Shogun 2? I'm assuming it's because CA decided to start selling factions. We have mods that unlock all factions for Empire and Napoleon, but from the looks of things it's become much harder to do.

its because of the ikko-ikki and hattori. since they are selling this content they wouldn't want want people to get at it free. I only want people to play as the other clans like Imagawa, Ashikaga, Ashina, and so on.

[Freiherr von Hahl]

dont worry I will, that is a clan alot of people are dying to see and if it is buggy I will do my best to fix that. I wish to however play through my amako campaign first then I will release data, pics etc of the clan itself. Sound good?

I will be patient^^

[The Hedge Knight]

Congrats, a few have known this for a while but never released anything for a couple of reasons.

[The Hedge Knight]

By the way just to confirm to all the 'thats illegal' guys.

Its not so long as
-it doesnt unlock dlc for free
-it doesnt infringe on new dlc (and as they havent announced it how should we know not to mod it, similar situation to swiss modding the coldstreams into napoleon before ca with no complaints made)
-it doesnt modify the exe (which it doesnt)
-it doesnt enable people to unlock the dlc free

The only legal action as far as im aware ca can take is to patch out the ability to do this, which honestly is unlikely. I doubt they want to add any more grand campaign clans.

[scope2007]

I dont see WHY CA would have a problem with modders unlocking minor clans, they are insignificant - and have no faction specific perks or units - they are bland. They have nothing that makes them viable options for CA to release as DLC.

Apart from maybe 2 factions starting christian, and different start positions they provide nothing else that you can't encounter with a major faction.

Now if you were offering to unlock 'unique' major factions (those which have thier own perks/units/tech tree's etc - which to my knowledge are only hattori and ikko-ikko), then you might get a cease and desist order.

I think CA are done with the 'Sengoku" campaign now as they have done everything with it that they possibly can, so I dont think CA will have a problem with us poking around with it. They are moving away from this period with the standalone campaign of RotS so future paid DLC is likely going to be enhancements to ROTS or another standalone campaign.

It would be interesting to hear CraigTW's take on this, and give us the official stance that CA take with users modding in minor clans.

[Morray]

I reckon this might be fake...

[Dwizzle]

I reckon this might be fake...

this isnt fake, what would give you that reason I am not sure. If you dont believe me yet I am about to upload some more pics from my amako campaign.

Congrats, a few have known this for a while but never released anything for a couple of reasons

thank you , but I am aware of that... I think they could be afraid of possibly getting into trouble but I am allowed to mod the minor clans so that is no problem.

there will be more pics from the campaign map and not just battle, I just think battle pics are better to look at.

[Magicman2051]

A picture of the clan selection screen would be appreciated.

[The Hedge Knight]

A picture of the clan selection screen would be appreciated.

There isnt one, you load it through the tutorial campaign.

Anyway the main reason for this not happening before was it requiring 40 seperate startpos' and 40 sets of scripts which is just hard to do.