Oathbreakers

**FC Groningen** · December 22, 2011, 09:32 AM

Could you try Mumakil as well?

**KnightsTemplar** · December 22, 2011, 09:34 AM

CALL UPON THE CATAPULT!

**Dwarven Berserker** · December 22, 2011, 09:35 AM

I'd sick with the ballista's

Or catapults. Or Trebs. Or maybe cavalry charages work as well?

Edit: Dammit Templar, dare not to ninja me again! ever!

**Maiar93** · December 22, 2011, 10:25 AM

This is what happened when I positioned them against mumakil, troll-men and ballistae..

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The final outcome of the battle

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**lolIsuck** · December 22, 2011, 10:28 AM

well, all at the same time is a bit unfair

**KnightsTemplar** · December 22, 2011, 10:28 AM

OVERKILLLLLLLZ!

yea.

But well they still killed the same amount of men on 1K/D ratio - against such odds.
Pretty impressive.

**Maiar93** · December 22, 2011, 10:29 AM

They'd shamelessly abuse three-four units of ballista/three-four mumakil.

**Incredible Bulk** · December 23, 2011, 03:03 PM

Sorry Im a bit lost where do I download this and is this for third Age 3,1?

**lolIsuck** · December 23, 2011, 04:25 PM

It's included in Baron Samedi's mod wich has lots of other cool features
here you go

**Bungo Baggins** · December 23, 2011, 04:28 PM

It's already included in the vanilla campaign in 3.0 and 3.1 if I remember correctly.

To use them in custom battles open export_descr_unit.txt in your Third_Age_3\data file.
Search for Oathbreakers with Strg + F. There should be at the end of the file.

Then find the line that starts with 'attributes'.
Find 'no_custom' in that line and delete it. Repeat for their cavalry unit if you like.
Then save and start the game.

And of course you should make a backup first before you change a file.

**Incredible Bulk** · December 23, 2011, 04:52 PM

Thank you both for the information

**Adjudant-Major** · December 23, 2011, 05:08 PM

They are not used in vanilla campaign. I think their place in Baron Samedi's compilation where you can choose whether you want to play with them or not is the most suitable. The concept is not 100%... the skins are not at the same level the other units are, they may perhaps make the Gondorian campaign a bit more interesting for a few turns, nothing more to be expected. They would need new models, new voices, perhaps some effects (if possible), and still : there would always be the differencies concerning their role according to the lore (books vs film) and according to the gameplay.

**Bungo Baggins** · December 23, 2011, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Adjudant-Major

They are not used in vanilla campaign. I think their place in Baron Samedi's compilation where you can choose whether you want to play with them or not is the most suitable. The concept is not 100%... the skins are not at the same level the other units are, they may perhaps make the Gondorian campaign a bit more interesting for a few turns, nothing more to be expected. They would need new models, new voices, perhaps some effects (if possible), and still : there would always be the differencies concerning their role according to the lore (books vs film) and according to the gameplay.

My mistake.
I only saw that they were in the vanilla edu and that there was a title in the campaign script saying 'army of the dead'. But that part only gives an ancillary to Aragorn.

I still had fun with them in the Samedi version.
I gave them the armor piercing trait and a mass of 50 and had them reclaim Minas Tirith from 2 full Mordor stacks including Sauron + some oliphants and easterlings.
And I don't think the textures are that bad, it's really nice to see them in battle...

**lolIsuck** · December 24, 2011, 08:09 PM

Neither one stack of Olog Hai nor 2 stacks of Berserkers killed one

**Emperor of Hell** · December 25, 2011, 04:41 AM

I send two full stacks of Mumakil, Two full eldar stacks, one stack full of Eldar cavalry, One full stack of Dwarven heavy infantry, 5 units of ents and 15 silvan heavy archers against a full stack of Oathbreakers. I was raped

. But the interesting is that my full stack of Mumakil killed 5 or something and captured 18 and the other Mumakil stack killed 4 and captured 2, the rest of the armies didn't kill or capture a single one. So mumakil is the only thing that has a very small change against them

**lolIsuck** · December 25, 2011, 05:56 AM

And artillery I guess

**Emperor of Hell** · December 25, 2011, 06:04 AM

I also tried 4 full eldar stacks and a half stack of Olog hai and a half stack of spiders against one unit. It was hopeless, I stopped the battle when we lost 70 % of our troops and the Oathbreakers lost 8