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    Default Dwarf and Hobbit Ponymen?

    PLease note: I am NOT referring to the stupid Magical Pony Cult currently plaguing the forums. please don't discuss that here as that is not what my thread is about.

    This may sound silly, especially since Gimili himself once said "a Dwarf is no horseman". But he didn't say not a Ponyman! Since Eriador will be added later, and there will be hobbit units, why not try something peculiar like Hobbit Horse(Pony) Crossbowmen? Maybe Dwarf Horse Crossbowmen or perhaps scouts? Hobbit and Dwarf Ponymen scouts seems a rather reasonable proposal, maybe more realistic than the HCB idea.

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    There won't be crossbows for Dwarves, but ponies will make an appearance; though perhaps not quite like you imagine. Hobbits have an extremely limited roster and won't feature anything of the sort.

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    Y R U NOT HAZ CROSSBOAWS!!!!????

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    Well, I guess Dwarves will have some sort of mannish merc cavalry from Rhovanion or Dale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aradan View Post
    There won't be crossbows for Dwarves, but ponies will make an appearance; though perhaps not quite like you imagine. Hobbits have an extremely limited roster and won't feature anything of the sort.
    Ah, the emerging faction will be the Killer-ponies of Mirkwood.
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    Damnit, I inadvertently gave our top secret away! Nooooooooooessss!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Cocroach the great View Post
    Y R U NOT HAZ CROSSBOAWS!!!!????

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    Default Re: Dwarf and Hobbit Ponymen?

    I would also like to know why there are no crossbows. =/

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    A lore thingy

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    Default Re: Dwarf and Hobbit Ponymen?

    There was no mention of crossbows in any works of Tolkien as far as I'm aware of...It is possible that in the Fourth Age a faction like the dwarves could have *conceivably* developed them, but I doubt the FA Team would be willing to add them into the game ever.

    Plus that would mean having to develop new animation for crossbows because they weren't used in Rome TW or any of the expansions.
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    I think there were some crossbows in BI, right? Mercenary Bucellarii or something like that.
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    I know that the Celts in BI had crossbows but seeing as there's no mention of crossbows in Tolkien (i think?) I doubt they'll be added to FATW.
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    As said before, Tolkien didn't mention crossbows.
    I don't think this is a reason not to implement them (there are ballistas, so why not crossbows?) but I'd also say it doesn't really fit the Dwarves. Indeed, they *DID* use bows, for hunting at least, and where also skilled with it, so it's not that stupid fantasy stereotype "Dwarves use axes and cannot do archery because they are so heavy-handed".
    I think the main point is that Dwarves don't really have use for a long-range weapon: Their fortresses are underground. It is dark, narrow, distances are quite short, pillars standing around, so a bow or sth the like doesn't make a lot of sense. Even in huge halls like in Khazad-dûm melee or short range combat is suited better. And since the Dwarves don't build walls, towers and stuff they also don't have to fight a foe some meters beneath them.

    In gameplay terms they could make use of it and a missile unit would be nice. But I assume they'll be able to recruit some of the Dalish units.
    If I was in charge to give them a ranged weapon, I'd give them artillery, something like the scorpio.
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    Patience, patience, we'll make everyone happy.

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    actually, dwarf didn't need crossbows, they have blunderbusses

    BTW, dwarfen blunderbuss ponymen seems nice

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    Are you a psychic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aradan View Post
    Are you a psychic?
    No, those pony-riding blunderbuss-yielding dwarves are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strategos Lykos View Post
    actually, dwarf didn't need crossbows, they have blunderbusses
    Oh, right!
    Btw, is there a download linked here on TWC?

    BTW, dwarfen blunderbuss ponymen seems nice
    How lovely!
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    Why don't we simply give them machine guns? Pony-riding-dwarven-machinegunners, how badass is that!


    Or better yet, give them massive bears for mounts.

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    Bears? Or boars?! Or boarbears. Bearboars. Anything with beer anyway (no, not a typo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocroach the great View Post
    Why don't we simply give them machine guns? Pony-riding-dwarven-machinegunners, how badass is that!


    Or better yet, give them massive bears for mounts.
    let's wait if we can convert tank Models from CNC to Carriage Ballista for RTW use, I'd like to give the Dwarves flame tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strategos Lykos View Post
    let's wait if we can convert tank Models from CNC to Carriage Ballista for RTW use, I'd like to give the Dwarves flame tank
    Make them shoot lasers from their eyes and fart nuclear bombs!

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