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[Cazac]

I don't think that would be viable. Deserters of the Watch were caught on sight and killed. Being up on the wall often were the punishment of a crime in the first place, and to escape from that is to have lost their only chance to redeem themselves. They were seen as lower than vermin, and it is every lords obligation to catch and hang 'em. I don't belive that no matter how desperate, an Lord would hire these.

Although, Wilding Raiders could be recruited in small amounts in the North. They should be small, light skirmishers, suited for ambushes or flanking etc.

Btw, is there any mention in the book why Benjen Stark was there in the first place? or mormont? What did they do or why did they choose to be in the watch? surely when they joined, the white walkers had a rather insignificant presence, and the wildlings were much less organized and dispersed.

[Enshou]

I like the recruits, the brothers just don't seem right to me. We're talking about cutthroats and rapists here. Should be barely any knight among them. They look way too professional to me.

[Lordinquisitor]

Artistic license.

Well, our impression was that the Watch didn`t lack equipment. Over the time the man power dwindled but i assume that they would have kept the spare armor and weapons they used in the "good ol` days."

[Captain Zoran]

Btw, is there any mention in the book why Benjen Stark was there in the first place? or mormont? What did they do or why did they choose to be in the watch? surely when they joined, the white walkers had a rather insignificant presence, and the wildlings were much less organized and dispersed.

I think Benjen was there like Jon, volountarily. A few knights and lords lesser sons still travel to the Wall, although not in such an large amount as in the good ole' days. Mormont is the same I think, although he never mentions it.

[Lordinquisitor]

Yes, it think both joined the watch voluntary. Benjen probably out of some sense of duty to the realm- Remember that the Starks really live their words "Winter is coming". Also, i think he thought that he wouldn`t be needed after Robert conquered the throne- The Realm was united, Ned had an heir..

I`m not exactly sure why Jeor joined the Watch, but probably he was already pretty old and thought that Jorah was ready to inherit Bear island. I think he saw the Watch as a way to retire in honor, while still serving a good cause.

[Deathshade]

I`m not exactly sure why Jeor joined the Watch, but probably he was already pretty old and thought that Jorah was ready to inherit Bear island. I think he saw the Watch as a way to retire in honor, while still serving a good cause.

It is sure, he said it to Jon Snow.

[Lordinquisitor]

Yes! My brain is still working despite suffering from a sudden high fever!

[Sulfurion Blackfyre]

While many people look at Jon Snow's POV and the Night's Watch in general as boring and unnecessary, I find it to be fascinating. The story, the concept, etc, the emminent threat of the Others and Wights and Wildlings massing.. all the while being forgotten by the rest of the world, and at the same time protecting it. The concept of "redemption" where all those rapists and murderers and "unwanted scum" of society actually end up feeling like brothers and all..

I'm very, very glad the faction is being included

[Timur Amir]

I know this is likely impossible but is it theoretically possible to allow captured prisoners to join the black? I mean, as in a boost in chivalry, and the Watch gets either money or units as well. Because it is canon that, in wars past, many war prisoners were sent to the Wall.

[Cazac]

I know this is likely impossible but is it theoretically possible to allow captured prisoners to join the black? I mean, as in a boost in chivalry, and the Watch gets either money or units as well. Because it is canon that, in wars past, many war prisoners were sent to the Wall.

I must admit, I like this idea, and it would also seem like something viable for the books

[Captain Zoran]

I know this is likely impossible but is it theoretically possible to allow captured prisoners to join the black? I mean, as in a boost in chivalry, and the Watch gets either money or units as well. Because it is canon that, in wars past, many war prisoners were sent to the Wall.

Very nice idea. Is it possible to have more than those three options regarding prisoners? Otherwise, this could be an option for the Starks atleast, seeing as they really would benefit from a more protected Wall

[Lordinquisitor]

1. We can`t add more options.

2. The Starks sending prisoners to the wall isn`t realistic. Only those guilty of some crime could be sent to the wall (And volunteers, ofc) and the enemies of the Starks are not commiting treason; Instead the Starks are! The only one that would have a right to sent enemy soldiers to the wall would be those connected with Joffrey, since those are the supposed real royal line now and we know Tywins opinion about sending men to the wall- A waste! Well, if another house would claim the Iron throne it would be more realistic, but it still isn`t possible to add more options.

[StannisBaratheon]

1. We can`t add more options.

2. The Starks sending prisoners to the wall isn`t realistic. Only those guilty of some crime could be sent to the wall (And volunteers, ofc) and the enemies of the Starks are not commiting treason; Instead the Starks are! The only one that would have a right to sent enemy soldiers to the wall would be those connected with Joffrey, since those are the supposed real royal line now and we know Tywins opinion about sending men to the wall- A waste! Well, if another house would claim the Iron throne it would be more realistic, but it still isn`t possible to add more options.

There is precedence for a non-royal rebel faction sending prisoners to the Wall - and it was none other than Tywin himself! When the Lannisters betrayed the Mad King and sacked King's Landing near the end of Robert's Rebellion, he offered many captured knights the choice between death and the Wall. That's how characters such as Alliser Thorne came to join the Night's Watch.

However, with that said although it would be a nice idea I appreciate that is probably too much work / implausible with the current game engine.

[Lordinquisitor]

Yes, but that`s because Robert won. The Winners have right on their side. That was also the point i was trying to make with that last sentence of mine, like if the Starks would claim the iron throne it would be more realistic in that case.

[Toho]

forget about prisoners, have script spawn units 7-10 turns with messages "my lord commander, our brothers have found more recruits and scum to fill our ranks"

[HannibalExMachina]

we can represent that by recruiting, no need for a script imo.

[Enshou]

2. The Starks sending prisoners to the wall isn`t realistic. Only those guilty of some crime could be sent to the wall (And volunteers, ofc) and the enemies of the Starks are not commiting treason; Instead the Starks are! The only one that would have a right to sent enemy soldiers to the wall would be those connected with Joffrey, since those are the supposed real royal line now and we know Tywins opinion about sending men to the wall- A waste! Well, if another house would claim the Iron throne it would be more realistic, but it still isn`t possible to add more options.

Well, they're fighting a pretender to be correct. Though the King of the North stuff would be treason against Stannis.

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(Who is according to lineage the rightfull king of the Baratheons).

Even so, the Wall doesn't care, they accept any prisoner send to them though I doubt they could handle about 400 of them.
Who cares what happens to the footsoldiers though? The knights would be the ones with the choice.

[Timur Amir]

1. We can`t add more options.

2. The Starks sending prisoners to the wall isn`t realistic. Only those guilty of some crime could be sent to the wall (And volunteers, ofc) and the enemies of the Starks are not commiting treason; Instead the Starks are! The only one that would have a right to sent enemy soldiers to the wall would be those connected with Joffrey, since those are the supposed real royal line now and we know Tywins opinion about sending men to the wall- A waste! Well, if another house would claim the Iron throne it would be more realistic, but it still isn`t possible to add more options.

1. I hate to say it, but what about a modifed version of 'Release'? After all, it seems as if sending men to the Watch was a tad more common than releasing.
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And we only ever see Jaime release troops like that, and that was after a diplomatic victory, and was regarded as foolish. In Westeros, even the most chivalrous knights seem to regard the Black as the way to go, and regard plain catch-and-release to be foolish.

2.well, people are offered the Wall quite a lot, and the Starks, being right there, would be an obvious choice, although the Lannisters and Joffrey tend to use the threat the most. The NW is in dire need of troops, and would likely accept troops from any faction that offered them.

[Heart of Madness]

Too bad that the Night's Watch went to hell along with everything else under Robert. If the Targaryens still ruled, the realm wouldn't be so split. But who knows, maybe Rhaegar might have turned out like his father. Doubtful, as he hated his father, but still the possibility.

[Timur Amir]

Too bad that the Night's Watch went to hell along with everything else under Robert. If the Targaryens still ruled, the realm wouldn't be so split. But who knows, maybe Rhaegar might have turned out like his father. Doubtful, as he hated his father, but still the possibility.

Rheagar

"I should burn some Starks and Baratheons today!" said Rhaegar, excidetly. "It will be as easy as nipples on a breastplate!"