Suggestions thread

**Master Necromancer** · August 24, 2011, 07:09 AM

All the ideas of the community are valuable to the team and all of them will be debated with great care.

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**The Holy Pilgrim** · August 24, 2011, 04:26 PM

Stickied

I also added some info about trolling

Also, merged two similar threads

**Torvus** · August 25, 2011, 02:52 PM

The principality of Steel should receive some knights called the "Brotherhood". If you've ever played Fallout, you'll get it...

**Squeaks** · August 25, 2011, 03:06 PM

Hi Torvus...could you check out the empire stuff in the first post here?? I was wondering what you thought about expanding the bae legion troop types...at present Bow/Pike/Lancers...would be nice to see what you thought!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=477310

**Torvus** · August 25, 2011, 04:52 PM

Well, personally, I would want to see Roman-type legionaries... with swords, tower shields and javelins.

**Squeaks** · August 25, 2011, 05:23 PM

I suppose I could bend the Guard Legions to be more like taht...or add a unique unit in the release for you only..that'd be easy enough! WIll think hard, porobably try to make Guard Legions like that

**Torvus** · August 25, 2011, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Squeaks

I suppose I could bend the Guard Legions to be more like taht...or add a unique unit in the release for you only..that'd be easy enough!

If you do, I expect them to be called the Torvirian guard... lol.

Actually, new thought... since your legions seem more like the armies of Alexander, you should have spear/javelin guys instead of swords.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · August 25, 2011, 07:10 PM

I think that a unit hinting at Roman/Macedonian equipment should be the limit, honestly. I don't want to see another Empire become Roman-ized just because they have legions. Though I'm not against one unit being somewhat like them.

The Empire has a chance to become really unique (an Empire that cares for once, that's a nice change) and I just don't want to see it become too influenced by a historical nation.

I mean no offense to your opinion, Torvus. I do respect your opinions, but I just have to disagree with you on this one. Then again, it's Squeaks who truly decides.

**Torvus** · August 25, 2011, 08:24 PM

I wholeheartedly agree, THP. that's why I made my second suggestion. They would be more like Alexander's Hypaspists. Basically the Legion's shock troop infantry, since that's the most important role the basic legion is missing.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · August 25, 2011, 08:25 PM

Yeah, you would think that a pike army would have some flank support

**Squeaks** · August 26, 2011, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Torvus

If you do, I expect them to be called the Torvirian guard... lol.

Actually, new thought... since your legions seem more like the armies of Alexander, you should have spear/javelin guys instead of swords.

Well, I was thinkering on this 'un. I think some form of heavy foot is needed; an anchoring unit if you like, so I'll be working on them, but I think it'll be the Guard Legions that do this...so veteran soldiers rather than regulars.

Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim

I think that a unit hinting at Roman/Macedonian equipment should be the limit, honestly. I don't want to see another Empire become Roman-ized just because they have legions. Though I'm not against one unit being somewhat like them.

The Empire has a chance to become really unique (an Empire that cares for once, that's a nice change) and I just don't want to see it become too influenced by a historical nation.

I mean no offense to your opinion, Torvus. I do respect your opinions, but I just have to disagree with you on this one. Then again, it's Squeaks who truly decides.

Sure Pilgie...very valid points indeed....will make the Guard Legions a good way towards this. I'm kinda hesistant to give 'em javelins, but we'll se what they turn into when I do them...things tend to fall into place as I'm making them often, so it'll shout something at me.

I will be giving the legion textures a slight overhaul too, as I don't think they're complete yet, and there's a distance to go detail wise. This is down to something Torvus said when he repped me, which was an important comment foe me to hear

Originally Posted by Torvus

I wholeheartedly agree, THP. that's why I made my second suggestion. They would be more like Alexander's Hypaspists. Basically the Legion's shock troop infantry, since that's the most important role the basic legion is missing.

Sure.

Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim

Yeah, you would think that a pike army would have some flank support

Well, when you start sticking stuff like Atakash ANgelbloods, Karesi Lionhearts etc in, they really DO have some very good flank support indeed....better than any regular legion unit could give, so I guess we run with what I mentioned. Thanks for having good opinions on this!!

**Torvus** · August 26, 2011, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Squeaks

Well, I was thinkering on this 'un. I think some form of heavy foot is needed; an anchoring unit if you like, so I'll be working on them, but I think it'll be the Guard Legions that do this...so veteran soldiers rather than regulars.

It doesn't make sense that the veterans would completely change their style of fighting... from pike, bow or horseman to heavy infantry. Maybe the Guard Legionaries are elites rather than veterans?

**Squeaks** · August 26, 2011, 12:48 PM

AH true...they are all trained in the same place under nasty conditions. I have this big list of army units, with their relative skills and stuff, so am taking most units from these...many factions have well over 20 units each on these (up to 29), so it's impossible to truly choose what's 'best', it's more a case of what we can't make work ingame that decides the troops used or left out. There's a lot of variety!

**Torvus** · August 26, 2011, 02:38 PM

well, obviously it's up to you. It could be that's why the Empire uses so many provincial troops, because their base army is missing that. Alexander and Rome's armies did that too, filling the gaps in their lines with troops from conquered peoples (obviously cavalry for Rome)

**T&D** · August 29, 2011, 03:03 PM

What you think about My ideas:
Ghaurchlai faction:
Victory conditions:
1.The main condition-destroy all factions
2.Secondary(which could help with first condition):
Capture losed five towers of death-after capturing them the portal to hell could be opened-every 30 turns the assistant regiments will go from them, near towers
Locations of towers:
-Khezdruli(60 % damaged)
-Nidon hal-swamps
-The main citadel of Ghaurchai
-2 towers at lindiri lands(90% damaged)
3:Specific terrains for Ghaurchali faction(dead battle grounds)
4:To destroy main bad character you need a demon regiment or magic unit's, We could make some demonic mercenaries(half demons or in little parts demons or magic unit's)
5:good factions could ,,release'' the previuos demon leader from his prison(very higtly costed and he wants blood-battles)
6:Mercenaries: bad humans, orcs deserters(two maybe three units)

**Everto** · September 01, 2011, 10:41 AM

Gentlemen, I have to say that the work you have accomplished here thus far is truly astounding. I've always found this type of High Fantasy mod, especially when well done, a true pleasure to look through, and this look like a very well thought out and executed mod. Seeing as this is the suggestions thread, I thought that I'd bring to light the work of B.Ward...Libertas Vel Mors. This is a mod quite like the one you're currently working on in that the map, factions and setting is completely original and made by the creator (in this case B.Ward). It is different in that there are only human factions, but the detail and true genius of this mod cannot be taken for granted, and thus I wish to share it with any of you who haven't seen this work.

I also will add that B.Ward has not been active since 2009, and the work of Libertas Vel Mors has been, unfortunately, put into the TWCenter Morgue, where it is currently inaccessible. No download link was ever given by B.Ward, so his work remains lost. But I did manage to save the screenshots a while back, and thus have re-uploaded them again so that they may be available for all eyes to see. Ladies and Gentlemen…I GIVE YOU….!

~ *LIBERTAS VEL MORS* ~

KINGDOM OF YONAH