[Anatolian Principalities] Battlefield Banners

[Karaman Beyi]

Here our coat of arms - battle flags of the factions,

Karamanids

Eretnaid Begs

Order of Saint John

Ilkhanid Khans

Georgian Kingdom

Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia

Byzantine Empire

Brotherhood of Ahi

Aydın Begs

Saruhan Begs

[img width=700 height=591]http://g1210.hizliresim.com/12/h/dzgv7.jpg[/img]

Timurids

Osman Begs

Mamluks

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[nurhak]

awesome, you guys do love the beylik of Karaman eh?

[Karaman Beyi]

awesome, you guys do love the beylik of Karaman eh?

We've just begun to design all themes first for Karaman Begs, that's it.

But i can't say, i'm not fan of them.

[Karaman Beyi]

the first message is updated.

a new coats of arms has been added.

[Elvasat]

As superb as usual!

+Rep..

[Karaman Beyi]

The first massage is updated, a new battlefield banner(Order of Saint John) has been added.

[SpyrosM91]

concerning the arms of the Knights of Malta:

In 1259 AD, Pope Alexander IV fixed the habit as a black mantle in peace time, and a red surcoat with white cross in war. Some Knights supplemented the red surcoat with a black cloak (as at right). The basic design of the cross was the eight pointed Cross Pattee-Nowy, known as the Maltese cross after the Order's relocation to Malta.

so, you should change the colour of the flags and coat-of-arms...

[Karaman Beyi]

concerning the arms of the Knights of Malta:
so, you should change the colour of the flags and coat-of-arms...

Thanks for your interest mate,

so, which flag may you suggest us to change and why? Can you detaily explaind friend?

[SpyrosM91]

every black background of the main flags must be turned to red one instead...

[Wallachian]

Indeed as Spyros mentioned, in your mod's timeframe the Knights changed their flag to a red background as per the images below

[Karaman Beyi]

every black background of the main flags must be turned to red one instead...

Hmm in 1310 bettwen 1500... okay we will give a hand on them. Thanks for the info.

[VINC.XXIII]

If your mod is not multi-era(which means your banners will not change during game), I would suggest to get ride the grand-master's arms. I know G.Turner made nice designs showing the small shields with arms, like this:

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But thats not important, Hospitallers were from great noble families, yes, but forgotten their social advantages entering in the Order.
Fortunatly, the historical banners have not changed from 1306 to 1500 circa.

the small cross you used is correct, and as said Spyros, that should replace the large cross on black background.

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You can use the arrow banner as well for archer/slingers

[c_arsenal]

Thanks your interested , i think KaramanBeyi will use them.

[Karaman Beyi]

Rus Bey, many thanks for your advices, but i have questions, is it really true main general banner of the Saint John(red one instead of black one) in 1310?

By the way, i've added new banners; Georgian, nice inspections...

[karaislam]

excellent job bro.

[c_arsenal]

you did again.
good work elder brother.
+ reeep

[VINC.XXIII]

this one should be the main symbol:




as secondary symbol(banner's city stratmap) use the right cross, white and red.
In all cases, its red background.

After 1250, the red became principal color on clothes, also. First were knights, and more and more the sergeants have rights to the red tunic.

[Karaman Beyi]

Thanks Rus Bey for the necessary and clear information. BANNERS! TURN RED!!

[Tadzreuli]

well done ! I can't give to the author this banners + reo twise ! ... but , can you just change Georgian Royal Banner simbol by this cross:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Monastery.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...olnisi.svg.png

[Tadzreuli]

this very nice link for medieval georgian banners, with good description:

http://georgianheraldry.blogspot.com...dieval%20flags