Anton's Banner, Visual and Clan-swapping Overhaul [v1.7] - Include's seven new clans (Nagao, Nanbu, Sanada, Akechi, Shiina, Red Devils, Suwa), ROTS minor clans added to custom battles, loading screens, historical battle map and more!
Anton's Banner, Visual and Clan-swapping Overhaul
*New banner to come eventually. It was starting to seem a bit plain*
There are three elements of this mod that merit a simplified note. The first is banners. This has always been the appealing part of the mod. This started out with individual banner mods, namely Takeda Shingen's "Furinkazan" banner. I expanded to a few others before creating a mod with everything I have created at that point due to the prospect of those mods being incompatible with each other. Hence, we have the origins of this mod. The second element of the mod is the general visual additions. At first this was to help impliment new banners that have a crest change. Take my Ashikaga banner as an example. I was compelled to use the same clan crest that I used on the banner in other parts of the game, so I applied it as such. I have expanded on the visual part of the mod, however, to change things like the 'historical battles' map, unit icon backgrounds, experience chevrons, and no doubt numerous other things! The third element of the mod is 'clan-swapping'. This idea was an off-shoot of my banner changes, however it expands into changing the name of a clan - one example is the Anegakoji - and replacing it with another. In this mod, I changed the Anegakoji to the Sanada clan by not only swapping out the Anegakoji banner and crests, but changing the Anegakoji text entries. Pretty neat, huh? Another cool addition seen in v1.7 and onwards is completely new clans seen in custom battles! I am always expanding on the mod with every new version, which, to variable extents, cover each of the aforementioned three elements of the mod.
As usual, the .pack files go into S2's data folder. Simply extract the files into that data folder and you're good to go.
I'm always eager to hear what YOU think, so let me know!
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Change-log
There are a few posts of mine that have screenshots for the following new clans: Sanada, Akechi, Shiina and Suwa.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul!
Beta files linked below. They are .pack files, so put them in S2's data folder.
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I am making a distinction between beta files and unit files, as the Kaihogyo Sohei seem to be pretty damn finished. Any unit files that I have not created a dedicated thread for will be placed here.
I have made some tweaks to the Kaihogyo Sohei unit, putting them at v1.5! The stats are the same, but I have changed accessibility during the campaign. They can be recruited at forts that have a second or higher tier of any temple (Buddhist or Ikko). You also no longer have to be the Uesugi (or Nagao if you use them with this overhaul); as long as one of your forts has a second tier or higher temple, you can recruit these monks. Regarding tactics: these guys are not to be used in direct combat, but rather as morale breakers. Test them out, get a feel for them and you will understand what I mean. The .pack file is in "Kaihogyo Sohei [v1.5].rar".
I have started a dedicated thread for the Red Devil Ashigaru (and by extension my W-I-P unit pack). I am using the "Red Devil Ashigaru.rar" file attached to this post in that dedicated thread, so don't worry about it for now. Have a look at the mod here.
Last edited by Akaie; October 27, 2012 at 11:41 PM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
This is a great initiative, Anton! Wish I had your gift for adding new kamons and details on the flags, and changing those campaign map standards. Keep up the good work!
Listen, one thing that has bothered me ever since I went into custom battles and played the minor factions: several of them miss their proper family crests in the selection menu before the battle and info shown when placing the marker over their units in battle mode. Could you fix that, if you wanted to?
GNOTHI SEAUTON (Know Thyself) - precept inscribed in the forecourt of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi, Greece MEDEN AGAN (Nothing To Excess) - another precept inscribed in the aforementioned place
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
Originally Posted by Demokritos
This is a great initiative, Anton! Wish I had your gift for adding new kamons and details on the flags, and changing those campaign map standards. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! As far as the allotment of time I'm keeping for modding goes, this is all I'm working on. Once I get to the point where not much else calls out for a change, I'll look at writing an extremely detailed description on how to do this stuff (or at least how I do it).
Originally Posted by Demokritos
Listen, one thing that has bothered me ever since I went into custom battles and played the minor factions: several of them miss their proper family crests in the selection menu before the battle and info shown when placing the marker over their units in battle mode. Could you fix that, if you wanted to?
Since you said minor factions, are you using a particular mod? By family crests, are you saying that no image shows up altogether or there is in fact an image, but it is not the correct image (for example, something like having a Mori kamon attached to the Kobayakawa faction)? Once I get a bit more info, I'm happy to have a look into it for you!
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
This fault with a number of minor factions is what you discover if you use any mod enabling you to play them in custom battles, for instance The Hedge Knight's original mod for the purpose found here (I've made my own mod with the same function but slightly different content and it's the same problem there). The mess-up is first found on the list which appears when you want to select a faction for play in custom battles. The Amako, Asano, Ishida, Kobayakawa, Kuroda, and Ukita all have the same icon for family crests (black square on white field) there and it appears to be the correct one only for the first clan (Amako). Then when you place your mouse over a unit from these minor factions as enemies in the battlefield mode, the info that pops show that same icon only, so you wouldn't know what clan it is if you don't recognize their uniforms or know it beforehand (if those factions are allies, however, their clan name will be spelled out in letters in that info box).
If you can fix this I'd download the mod and rep you for making it available immediately.
GNOTHI SEAUTON (Know Thyself) - precept inscribed in the forecourt of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi, Greece MEDEN AGAN (Nothing To Excess) - another precept inscribed in the aforementioned place
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
Alright, after taking a look at it, I seem to have fixed the problem. I attached the file to a post in Hedge's thread (link below). Let me know if that does what you want.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
Imagawa clan was descendant of Kira clan, the main branch of Ashikaga clan.
They are very close relatives. Therefore Ashikaga shogunate dictated to inherit position of shogun to Imagawa clan, if Kira clan has no suitable daimyo.
And it was common custom to Branches of Ashikaga clan to using Crest of Ashikaga clan, the Ashikaga-Futatsu-Hikiryou.
current Imagawa clan crest in S2TW is not a correct crest for Imagawa clan, but Imagawa Yoshimoto's personal crest, both Umajirushi and Crest.
You can see even Yoshimoto himself using Ashikaga crest in many Taiga dramas. I respectfully suggest changing Imagawa crest.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
It is just like Nagao clan issue. Character of Bi(Uesugi clan's basic crest in S2TW) is not a Uesugi crest, but Uesugi Kenshin's Hatajirushi.
It seems developers are confusing between personal symbol and family crest.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
Originally Posted by Anton93
Alright, after taking a look at it, I seem to have fixed the problem. I attached the file to a post in Hedge's thread (link below). Let me know if that does what you want.
Edit: I added what I attached in that post to this mod.
I picked up your fix for that fault, found it working and repped you immediately. Nice work there, my friend.
I'd rep you for that tutorial you talked about in post #4, too, once it out - but the site rules require me to rep someone else first.
Keep up the good show!
Regards,
D
GNOTHI SEAUTON (Know Thyself) - precept inscribed in the forecourt of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi, Greece MEDEN AGAN (Nothing To Excess) - another precept inscribed in the aforementioned place
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
Originally Posted by lament9582
Let me tell you one thing real quick - I ADMIRE YOUR WORK!!
Please go on any splendid MOD with more historical detail.
and if you can give me any advice for my MOD, I will appreciate it.
I'm planning some MOD right now, about historical details and correction.
hmm, one last thing. is there any way can put those giant flag(Hatajirushi) on flag-bearing unit in my troops?
I want to see flag-bearer holding Eiraku-tsuhou Hatajirushi in Nobunaga's command, or Furinkazan's Hatajirushi in Shingen's command.
After all, I'm Shingen's big fan, even using self-made MOD with Kagemusha(Movie)'s main theme for Victory theme.
Thanks. I will definitely not stop here! A historicity mod sounds awesome; I'd love to see that mod when you've completed it. Regarding advice, I would need some specific areas you are looking at for your mod so I can help you as much as I can. As for putting a hata-jirushi on the flag held by the flag-bearer, theoretically, it's possible. The banners show three copies of the same file, meaning you would have to tell it to show only one. That way, you won't have three rectangular layers making a mess of things. I haven't looked at messing with the flag-bearer's flag yet, so I'm not sure how to go about doing that (although it shouldn't be too difficult). I'm also not sure as to what would happen when you use an image larger than the ~200x200pxl crests the game uses. I'll get back to you with this.
Now that is a great reminder. I completely forgot about my intent to watch that movie. I'll have to search around my local stores for a copy, but sadly I haven't found a reliable supplier of Japanese film and TV. I'll keep looking, though.
Originally Posted by lament9582
Is there any way to make a specific event that changing Daimyo's name, so Nagao clan turning into Uesugi clan and Nagao Kagetora changing name into Uesugi Kenshin?
In this way, it will be perfect during first few years, but it will remain Nagao forever.
Sadly, this may not be as easy as it seems. A name-changing system and greater banner diversity (as there was) would be great features of S2, and with those mechanics I figure I could set up a change pretty easily. The problem is the game's generalized content; I'm pretty much stuck with two banners: the big banners that my modding is focused around, and the sashimono (the single flag-bearer uses the same crest as the sashimono, thereby limited diversity) as well as many as two names for a person (baby names and the 'coming-of-age' name). So with this, one has to decide whether having a Nagao clan for the entire game out-weighs the con of not having the Echigo-based Uesugi clan. At least my mod allows you to have that choice.
Originally Posted by lament9582
Imagawa clan was descendant of Kira clan, the main branch of Ashikaga clan.
They are very close relatives. Therefore Ashikaga shogunate dictated to inherit position of shogun to Imagawa clan, if Kira clan has no suitable daimyo.
And it was common custom to Branches of Ashikaga clan to using Crest of Ashikaga clan, the Ashikaga-Futatsu-Hikiryou.
current Imagawa clan crest in S2TW is not a correct crest for Imagawa clan, but Imagawa Yoshimoto's personal crest, both Umajirushi and Crest.
You can see even Yoshimoto himself using Ashikaga crest in many Taiga dramas. I respectfully suggest changing Imagawa crest.
This is some great info, lament. I'm adding you to my credits page! I already gave that Ashikaga Futatsu-hikiryou kamon to the Ashikaga banner, so to differentiate, what do you think about a banner that, at the top, places the Ashikaga kamon and below it the Yoshimoto's Akadori crest?
Originally Posted by lament9582
It is just like Nagao clan issue. Character of Bi(Uesugi clan's basic crest in S2TW) is not a Uesugi crest, but Uesugi Kenshin's Hatajirushi.
It seems developers are confusing between personal symbol and family crest.
Once I found this out (I haven't been studying the Sengoku period for very long, in fact not before Shogun 2 was released) it seemed a bit odd to me, but then I acknowledged that the name "Uesugi Kenshin" is more popular than "Nagao Kagetora;" maximizing the games' popularity, maybe? There is also a distinction that the game creates: the Ogigayatsu and Yamanouchi lines of the Uesugi, as well as the 'Uesugi clan' itself. The Yamanouchi have their own mon, but I believe the Ogigayatsu Uesugi made use of the Uesugi kamon (correct me if I'm wrong). If this is the case, then CA's firm willingness to create the Uesugi clan (again, for the sake of popularity) meant that only one clan could use the kamon. With Kenshin in the game, the 'Bi' mon was a valid alternate to the Uesugi kamon. Of course, saying that the Uesugi clan ruled Echigo before 1561 is a huge fluff of history, with Echigo being ruled by the Nagao up until that year. I figure you know that, but it might be of interest to someone dropping by this thread.
I hope you can provide more suggestions to help this mod grow, as I'm thinking you know much more.
Originally Posted by Demokritos
I picked up your fix for that fault, found it working and repped you immediately. Nice work there, my friend.
I'd rep you for that tutorial you talked about in post #4, too, once it out - but the site rules require me to rep someone else first.
Keep up the good show!
Regards,
D
I'm glad you like it, and I'll definitely keep it up.
Last edited by Akaie; August 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
well, in Taiga dramas, Imagawa clan using same color and same crest with no difference between Ashikaga's.
but in game, we can't do that due to confusion. I think Ashikaga Futatsu-Hikiryou in Dark Blue and Gold is best solution so far.
Mixing both is terrible display. and I just saw Mori's crest. I suggest maintain original.
About Uesugi kenshin, He is well-known as Uesugi kenshin, but he changed his name for complicated reasons, just like Tokugawa Ieyasu.
He was daimyo of Nagao clan and Shugo-shoku of Echigo in first place. His name was "Nagao Kagetora"
Shugo-shoku is Lord of certain province. in most cases, Shogunate put their men on this post, but in Sengoku era, some warlord became Shogo by power or killed Shugo and took their place.
As he gained power in echigo province, he decided to inherit Uesugi clan and name of the Kanto-Kanrei. He changed name "Uesugi Masatora" in 1561 and succeeded Uesugi clan.
Kanrei is honorable position, taking control of multiple provinces. It was magistrate-like position serving shogunate, and losing its authority from decline of Ashikaga shogunate.
Uesugi Kenshin was fighting for its restoration. His enemy was mainly Takeda Shingen and Hojo Ujiyasu for their ambition for Provinces of Kanto.
After 4th Battle of Kawanakajima(You can play it in historical battle mode), He changing his name again, into "Uesugi Terutora",
getting one Kanji character from Ashikaga Yoshiteru(1536-1565), famous shogun from his sword skill. getting one character from their master was considered honorable prize or display of loyalty.
finally, He changing his name into buddhist-styled "Kenshin"(1570). Getting monk-styled name means he completely surrendered himself before Buddhism.
He was monk-like dedicated man anyway, who banned woman around him from his younger Samurai age(Therefore, his successor Uesugi Kagekatsu is adopted son).
Many Samurai became half-monk when they get old. His most ambitious enemy, Takeda Shingen was same case. His Samurai name was "Takeda Harunobu".
(Monk's name in S2TW is completely wrong. their names are Samurai-styled. FYI, Ninja's names are for noble Samurais, not common spies)
I'm studying Japanese history for a while. If you have any issue, I'll help as best as I can.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
oh, I forgot most important issue. XD
about Kamon, Kamon is a family crest. and Hatajirushi is giant flag symbolizes presence of general.
For example, Takeda Shingen's Hatajirushi is Sun tzu's "Furinkazan" and Takeda crest was "Takeda-Bishi". but Furinkazan is not a crest but just Shingen's own flag and motto.
Other generals in Shingen's chain of command can use Takeda crest, but they used their own Hatajirushi.
(Umajirushi and Hatajirushi is sometimes being confused. Umajirushi is unique object like golden hat, and Hatajirushi is just a flag.)
Just like history of his name, Kamons are also complicated. but my personal point of view, this game is focusing on Uesugi clan, so I suggest using Uesugi's one.
but if you want historical correctness, Nagao clan crest will be correct. Kenshin was Nagao Kagetora in 1545.
Your MOD focusing on their Hatajirushi, so I think keeping original flag for Uesugi will be good solution.
I love Tokugawa's and Takeda's. They are awesome! and for Oda's, it must be 3 Eiraku-tsuhou shape, not only one. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...unaga_flag.png
Oda's Hatajirushi.
Sorry for confusion, but I just realized that your MOD is for Hatajirushi.
for Imagawa,
I suggest using original flag for campaign menu will be more likely, because it is his personal crest. and Ashikaga crest will be small flag for his army in actual battlefield.
(FYI, small flag on soldier's back is called "Hata-Sashimono")
Last edited by lament9582; August 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
And about Mori clan crest,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mitsuboshi.svg
Ichimonji-Mitsuboshi(Character of "One" with three stars)
Original one's correct. Mori clan survived during Meiji restoration, and they still using it even now.
one more thing. If someone teaches me how to put image for my profile and character, it will be highly appreciated
Last edited by lament9582; August 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.0] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul! Additional notes on future features!
actually, I'm thinking about two MOD.
One is MOD that giving us actual general like Toyotomi Hideyoshi or Yamagata Masakage.
With all due respect, I'm tired of seeing stupid random-generated names or Monks and Ninjas have Samurai-styled name.
Toyotomi is not even a clan name but special name given by emperor, only few of Hideyoshi's family.
Simple name change will bring us into Sengoku Era more seriously.
One is MOD that has more detailed or correct map.
Right now, there is some problem in current campaign map.
1.Touhoku province's too simplified. Fukushima is name of province for modern era, not in Sengoku.
2.Some wrong detail. Mikawa was never been a formidable place for horse breeders,
and Kai was infamous from their gold mines even more than Sado or Izu.
Clans around Takeda always suffered by betrayers bribed by Kai gold, just like metsuke in S2TW.
if you want help me with some MOD making skill, I'll help you out.
Last edited by lament9582; August 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
I thought I'd jump on before I go to sleep. Thanks again for all the info, lament.
Sorry for confusion, but I just realized that your MOD is for Hatajirushi.
Regarding how I'm approaching this mod... I think I should provide some clarity. I am attempting to draw on as much historical detail as possible, however there will be banners that I create that seem lacking in historical validity and so on. This is because I envision this modification to eventually replace each and every banner. So with things like the Mori banner even though I know the kamon is more appropriate and the presence of Nobunaga's Eiraku Tsuhou even though Nobunaga is not even a general in 1545, I'm still determined to provide alternate banners. Some are hata-jirushi while some are not the most historically appropriate.
Hopefully you don't think I'm ignoring your ideas on purpose; it's just how I'm going about this mod. I am extremely grateful for the contributions you've made (I think you've taken up more of this thread than I have ).
Regarding your own mod ideas, they sound great. For the first one, that will be text-based changes, so you should look at 'local_en.pack' and 'local_en_patch.pack'. The localization would change depending on what language you are using, so if you are using another language, make sure to swap out the "en" bit with your particular ISO 2166 code when looking for those particular pack files. For the second idea, apart from the text-based changes, I'd suggest you have a look at TROM's work, as I believe he is the one that has added things like custom farms for commodities other than rice. His work could help you better understand such changes, that you might be able to add a gold mine to Kai, and what other similar changes you want to make.
Originally Posted by Piponde777
Woow! Good Job! Trying
Sweet!
Last edited by Akaie; August 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
I just tried this MOD, and found out Takeda Sashimono turning into Yellow crest and same red background. it looks like bug.
hmm, I think I need some sleep, cause so sleepy and I can't understand some of thread for now XD
I will not stop my effort to give further improvement for this MOD. This kind of historical mod is just what I wanted.
and I'll take a look on those mods you suggested.
Last edited by lament9582; August 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
Originally Posted by lament9582
I just tried this MOD, and found out Takeda Sashimono turning into Yellow crest and same red background. it looks like bug.
hmm, I think I need some sleep, cause so sleepy and I can't understand some of thread for now XD
I will not stop my effort to give further improvement for this MOD. This kind of historical mod is just what I wanted.
and I'll take a look on those mods you suggested.
This was lacking of polish. My mistake. The "faction_banners" table's first RGB value applies to multiple things: the thin rectangles on the campaign banner that convey how many units are in that stack, unit type icons on the battle banner and the sashimono crest. I put the gold colour in for the sake of the campaign banner and must've forgotten about it. Thanks for picking that up! I might use red instead of gold, and turn the sashimono background black, unless you think there's a better idea?
Oh, and I forgot. To change an avatar picture, go to the top-right where it should say "welcome, lament9582". Your name will link you to your TWC page. Click on "customize profile" which is closest to the top-right corner of the page, and then click "edit avatar". You'll find that option to the left of the screen. You'll probably have to scroll down. Hopefully that steers you in the right direction.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
Hmm, Is there any way to preserve original for their Sashimono and use fabulous Furinkazan flag?
I'm watching Taiga, "Takeda Shingen(1988)". They using various Sashimono in single clan, but still Black crest and Red background seems best for Takeda.
They look dominant, merciless, and strong! but if I have to delete Furinkazan flag to use original Kamon, it will be terrible torture for me XD I love both.
Re: Anton's Banner and Visual Overhaul Modification [v1.1] - Include's the Nagao Clan overhaul, custom battle clan unlocks and all-new additions!
Nice avatar!
All right. What I can do is change the background colour of the Furinkazan banner to something that allows those thin rectangles I mentioned to be pretty clear. This way, we can have the black crest-red background sashimono. Admittedly, I'm trying to work with these rectangles for the sake of the player. I'll do some colour testing soon.
It's unfortunate for the Furinkazan banner... but this is a visual overhaul as much as it is a banner overhaul, so such things must be considered!