[Spoilers] Game Of Thrones - Clash Of Kings ( SERIES )

**Hakkapeliitta** · May 14, 2012, 07:28 PM

Did they get a new guy to play Gregor Clegane? The huge guy who was talking to Tywin?

Really they could have done the Ygritte/Jon as it was in the book, we've barely had any Qhorin on screen.

**Påsan** · May 14, 2012, 08:49 PM

Yeah the old guy got booted for some reason. He was a way better mountain though.

**Fluttershy** · May 14, 2012, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by mattgoby

That last episode was a shambles if you've read the books, they've buggered around with Jons and Danny's story lines so much it's stupid.

Any change to Dany's storyline is an improvement

**Påsan** · May 14, 2012, 09:12 PM

I have come to the conclusion that it was too early for this series to be made. They should have waited five years or gotten a bigger budget because the cuts and shortcuts are getting downright annoying not to mention blatantly obvious. I will still follow of course but I no longer enjoy the show as the great hour of television it ought to be.

The actors in some cases are very well cast (Arya, Tyrwin, Tyrion, John, perhaps Dany as well) , but the fault lies with the direction and the design departments. They seem completely unable too keep track of what is described in the books.

**MathiasOfAthens** · May 15, 2012, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Påsan

I have come to the conclusion that it was too early for this series to be made. They should have waited five years or gotten a bigger budget because the cuts and shortcuts are getting downright annoying not to mention blatantly obvious. I will still follow of course but I no longer enjoy the show as the great hour of television it ought to be.

The actors in some cases are very well cast (Arya, Tyrwin, Tyrion, John, perhaps Dany as well) , but the fault lies with the direction and the design departments. They seem completely unable too keep track of what is described in the books.

Makes you think they dont care about the quality, only releasing it. People will still watch it regardless of more scenes so why spend the money. The series has a huge following of fans... HBO is counting on that they will watch regardless of plot destruction.

**Hakkapeliitta** · May 15, 2012, 05:15 AM

I understand that many things need to be changed in order to change flow or sequence of events to more "fluid" so that it fits the medium better, characters need to be cut, other characters need to be given more screen time etc, and most of the time I try to trust the people making the series that they know what they are doing and usually they seem to. But sometimes I can't but wonder "why the hell did they have to change that?" Like for example Stannis putting Davos in charge of the fleet. Sure a small change, but why change it from the books?

**white-wolf** · May 15, 2012, 05:45 AM

Ahem, actually in the books Stannis puts Davos in charge of the fleet.

**Hakkapeliitta** · May 15, 2012, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by white-wolf

Ahem, actually in the books Stannis puts Davos in charge of the fleet.

Did he? IIRC Stannis gave command to someone else who was more high-ranking, or at least

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**DisgruntledGoat** · May 15, 2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Påsan

Yeah the old guy got booted for some reason. He was a way better mountain though.

Conan Stevens, the old Mountain that Rides, got a role in the Hobbit. So his schedule conflicted with the filming of the second season. So he and HBO had to part ways.

**white-wolf** · May 15, 2012, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Hakkapeliitta

Did he? IIRC Stannis gave command to someone else who was more high-ranking, or at least

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Who?

**NotYetRegistered** · May 15, 2012, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by white-wolf

Who?

A Florent. I think Axel.

**Lordinquisitor** · May 15, 2012, 08:02 AM

Ser Imry Florent was. Not that it matters- He died anyway.

**white-wolf** · May 15, 2012, 08:05 AM

Well, I stand corrected.

**Hakkapeliitta** · May 15, 2012, 10:24 AM

I guess the point was to show that Stannis trusts Davos above anyone else, and lords who feel insulted having to take orders from an upstart can get stuffed. But since there are going to be more seasons they could have that relationship develop as in the book. It's not big a thing at all, but why change it?

On the other hand the changes to the "Dany does nothing in Qarth" storyline and changes to the character of Xaro are an improvement, to say nothing about the interaction between Arya and Tywin.

**MathiasOfAthens** · May 15, 2012, 10:30 AM

I remember someone else being in charge of the naval fleet at the battle as well? I can only imagine the writers cut them so there be less characters for TV viewers to follow but to make Davos a tactical fool would be foolish for the writers to do.

I really

ing hope they spent every last penny on this battle because if it isnt even slightly

ing awesome then this season and all the cut plotlines and characters would have been for naught.

**DisgruntledGoat** · May 15, 2012, 10:35 AM

The Florents (one of which was in charge of the fleet) will eventually play a major role moving forward. You'll remember that the Florents are Stannis' wife's family. Although they sided with Renly at first.