Nazism [Notorious GSC vs Akar]

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Opening post:

In Mein Kampf Hitler hasn't claimed to destroy any of the nationalities, just fight so Germanic Race can survive, his plan for Jews was to send them to Madagascar not kill them, but other Great Powers didn't agree and Hitler didn't controlled Madagascar.
He said Germany needs 500,000 km2 more land so it can compete with USA and British Empire, but when his plan of Germanic Reich (unite all Germanics except for British and regain 1914 lands) would become truth, he would exceede the number.

[Akar]

In Mein Kampf Hitler hasn't claimed to destroy any of the nationalities, just fight so Germanic Race can survive, his plan for Jews was to send them to Madagascar not kill them, but other Great Powers didn't agree and Hitler didn't controlled Madagascar.

Except the Germanic Race didn't need any aid in surviving. They had no real adversaries and had a large and powerful nation, fully capable of fielding a large and skilled army. As was shown by WW2 and their large territorial conquests.

And now, an exert from Mein Khampf

And so he [the Jew] advances on his fatal road until another force comes forth to oppose him, and in a mighty struggle hurls the heaven-stormer back to Lucifer.

This could be interpreted as calling Jews demons or devils, and as encouragement to oppose or kill them.

Germany is today the next great war aim of Bolshevism. It requires all the force of a young missionary idea to raise our people up again, to free them from the snares of this international serpent

This exert clearly supports organizing an uprising or organized destruction of Bolsheviks.

He said Germany needs 500,000 km2 more land so it can compete with USA and British Empire, but when his plan of Germanic Reich (unite all Germanics except for British and regain 1914 lands) would become truth, he would exceede the number.

And he accomplished this by peacefully annexing Austria, the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia. He was capable of uniting the Germanic Reich without a total war against Europe. Hitler was able to quite capably overpower France and deal with Great Britain without gaining 500,000km2 land. The invasion of Poland was completely unnecessary, as was the extermination and imprisonment of the Jews, Romas, Homosexuals, and the mentally disabled.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Except the Germanic Race didn't need any aid in surviving. They had no real adversaries and had a large and powerful nation, fully capable of fielding a large and skilled army. As was shown by WW2 and their large territorial conquests.

Yes it needed, it was colonized by other races (especially jews) otherwise it can be destroyed, look what's happening at current Germany, at current rate soon it wont be Germany anymore.
Hitler saw this coming, that's why he wanted Germanic Race to be pure, so it's not eaten up and colonized by others. Germans were fighting a big struggle, but now they have laid down their weapons, I think something must be done to preserve the Germanic Race.

And now, an exert from Mein Khampf

This could be interpreted as calling Jews demons or devils, and as encouragement to oppose or kill them.

That quote shows no signs that Jew must be killed.

This exert clearly supports organizing an uprising or organized destruction of Bolsheviks.

It could also defeat it by backing up White Russians if they had revolusion after all there would be no Bolshevism anymore and Germans had won it.

And he accomplished this by peacefully annexing Austria, the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia. He was capable of uniting the Germanic Reich without a total war against Europe. Hitler was able to quite capably overpower France and deal with Great Britain without gaining 500,000km2 land. The invasion of Poland was completely unnecessary, as was the extermination and imprisonment of the Jews, Romas, Homosexuals, and the mentally disabled.

Slovakia become independent, he annexed only Chzehia (sp?).
Poland was holding German land and it was supressing and killing German people living in Poland.
They were unnecaptable by German standarts, Jews and Gypsies are colonists and parazites, while homosexuals and mentally disabled are unneeded cargo. Do not we do a favor to mentally disabled by killing him so he ends his suffereings and he can reborn and live a normal life?
Austria, Rhineland and Chzehia aren't 500,000km2.

BTW do you know difference between German and Germanic?

[Akar]

Yes it needed, it was colonized by other races (especially jews) otherwise it can be destroyed, look what's happening at current Germany, at current rate soon it wont be Germany anymore.

Colonized? Hardly, settled and made homes there, yes. There's a large difference though. How would a large, populated nation be destroyed by a large surge of immigration? The USA had similar surges in immigration and it made the nation's culture and economy all the better for it. How would Germany cease to be Germany anymore due to Jewish immigrants or immigrants from other nations, their culture and government would remain intact, I don't see your point.

Hitler saw this coming, that's why he wanted Germanic Race to be pure, so it's not eaten up and colonized by others. Germans were fighting a big struggle, but now they have laid down their weapons, I think something must be done to preserve the Germanic Race.

Hitler saw what coming, exactly? Nothing has happened or will happen for that matter. There are currently 81 million people in Germany, how many of those would you say are not "pure". You speak as if the Germanic race is an endangered animal on the verge of extinction, which is simply not true. Why must the Germanic race be preserved through fighting?

That quote shows no signs that Jew must be killed.

"And throws the Heaven-stormer back to Lucifer"? That clearly says to throw them into hel.

It could also defeat it by backing up White Russians if they had revolution after all there would be no Bolshevism anymore and Germans had won it.

And why White Russians? There's no reason that another race couldn't support Fascism or Hitler.

Slovakia become independent, he annexed only Chzehia (sp?)

Indeed, I made a mistake there.

Poland was holding German land and it was supressing and killing German people living in Poland.

Yes it had German land, land that was given to Poland in the Treaty of Versailles. Though suppressing and killing of the German people is simply untrue, at least on the scale that the Nazis perpetrated on Poland.

They were unnecaptable by German standarts, Jews and Gypsies are colonists and parazites, while homosexuals and mentally disabled are unneeded cargo.

Jews were hard workers in Germany and Austria, despite not having the same rights as other races for many centuries. While yes the un-employment rate amongst Roma is extraordinarily high that does not degrade their right to life, they are humans and their lives are equal to that of the whitest most blonde German. How are homosexuals "Unneeded baggage"? They are capable of working and serving in the armed forces just as well as a straight male is capable of.

Do not we do a favor to mentally disabled by killing him so he ends his suffereings and he can reborn and live a normal life?

That's a debate for another time.

Austria, Rhineland and Chzehia aren't 500,000km2.

I never claimed that. I simply said that Germany had enough land to compete and even overwhelm other nations.

BTW do you know difference between German and Germanic?

Yes, I do. Germany is a nation whereas Germanic is a race/group of people.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Colonized? Hardly, settled and made homes there, yes. There's a large difference though. How would a large, populated nation be destroyed by a large surge of immigration? The USA had similar surges in immigration and it made the nation's culture and economy all the better for it. How would Germany cease to be Germany anymore due to Jewish immigrants or immigrants from other nations, their culture and government would remain intact, I don't see your point.

Biggest crime doers in USA are Blacks and Hispanics, USA will fall eventually. Mixing will always fail.
Jews are alliens, they have no place in Germany. German land to Germans.

Hitler saw what coming, exactly? Nothing has happened or will happen for that matter. There are currently 81 million people in Germany, how many of those would you say are not "pure". You speak as if the Germanic race is an endangered animal on the verge of extinction, which is simply not true. Why must the Germanic race be preserved through fighting?

Most Germans by 2050 will be pensionars, and what will happen when will they die? Minorities are majority.
How else they gonna defend against invaders?

"And throws the Heaven-stormer back to Lucifer"? That clearly says to throw them into hel.

It says that they should go back where they are coming from. Out of Germany because that place is for Germans.

And why White Russians? There's no reason that another race couldn't support Fascism or Hitler.

By White Russians I meant like in 1917 revolution, White vs. Red.

Indeed, I made a mistake there.
Yes it had German land, land that was given to Poland in the Treaty of Versailles. Though suppressing and killing of the German people is simply untrue, at least on the scale that the Nazis perpetrated on Poland.

Poles murdering Germans was one of the reasons why Germans had to invade. You as a leader wouldn't you try to protect your people? And before you say about diplomatic talks, Hitler tried as long as he can, but Poland refused.

But you will eventually claim that nothing like this has happened by your idiotic made up Western Propaganda.

Jews were hard workers in Germany and Austria, despite not having the same rights as other races for many centuries. While yes the un-employment rate amongst Roma is extraordinarily high that does not degrade their right to life, they are humans and their lives are equal to that of the whitest most blonde German. How are homosexuals "Unneeded baggage"? They are capable of working and serving in the armed forces just as well as a straight male is capable of.

Jews hard workers? Are you joking? All what they did was sell stuff, dentists etc. Have to see a Jewish farmer.
Gypsies are poluting German lands, why should Germans allow it?
I don't want to talk about equality, mods don't allow it. All humans aren't equal.
Homosexualism is unnecaptable and wrong. Man must love Woman, not Man.

I never claimed that. I simply said that Germany had enough land to compete and even overwhelm other nations.

So it could ecionamically compete with USA or British Empire?

Yes, I do. Germany is a nation whereas Germanic is a race/group of people.

Germanic nations in Europe currently:

[Akar]

Biggest crime doers in USA are Blacks and Hispanics, USA will fall eventually. Mixing will always fail.

Do you have a source for that accusation? You do realize that Blacks and Hispanics are only a few of many races that have immigrated to the USA, right?

Jews are alliens, they have no place in Germany. German land to Germans.

As in, from space?

Most Germans by 2050 will be pensionars, and what will happen when will they die? Minorities are majority.
How else they gonna defend against invaders?

Again, do you have a source for this? I don't believe that most Germans will be pensioners within the next 40 years. What invaders? They have no enemies, besides, there is NATO and the EU.

It says that they should go back where they are coming from. Out of Germany because that place is for Germans.

Germany hasn't been a place for only Germans for centuries.

Poles murdering Germans was one of the reasons why Germans had to invade. You as a leader wouldn't you try to protect your people? And before you say about diplomatic talks, Hitler tried as long as he can, but Poland refused.

They weren't Hitler's people. They were Polish after the treaty of Versailles. Tried as long as he could? Hitler was a power hungry psychopath bent on the complete conquest of Europe.

But you will eventually claim that nothing like this has happened by your idiotic made up Western Propaganda.

"Idiotic made up Western Propaganda"? You're spouting Nazi Propaganda.

Jews hard workers? Are you joking? All what they did was sell stuff, dentists etc. Have to see a Jewish farmer.

Are you saying Dentists ect. are not hard workers? They have the same right to live and have a decent job as any other man or woman.

Gypsies are poluting German lands, why should Germans allow it?

Why should they exterminate them?

I don't want to talk about equality, mods don't allow it. All humans aren't equal.

Yes, they are. Excluding the disabled, of course.

Homosexualism is unnecaptable and wrong. Man must love Woman, not Man.

Whether its wrong or right is not the subject of this debate. Homosexuals have as much of a right to a job, home, country and to life as any other men.

So it could economically compete with USA or British Empire?

Which it was, it's ability to field a massive army and conquer much of Europe show this.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Do you have a source for that accusation? You do realize that Blacks and Hispanics are only a few of many races that have immigrated to the USA, right?

As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups.

As in, from space?

No, different kind of people.

Again, do you have a source for this? I don't believe that most Germans will be pensioners within the next 40 years. What invaders? They have no enemies, besides, there is NATO and the EU.

Invaders: Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Turks, Arabs. Turks and Arabs are equal to German, but they have their own land to live.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/11/ge...e-by-2050.html
http://www.bionetonline.org/english/content/ll_leg2.htm

Germany hasn't been a place for only Germans for centuries.

It should be. Germany is no home for Jews.

They weren't Hitler's people. They were Polish after the treaty of Versailles. Tried as long as he could? Hitler was a power hungry psychopath bent on the complete conquest of Europe.

So when Russia conquers Latvia, Latvian becomes Russian? What a stupid logic.
He tried to negotiate for half year, how long he will allow his people to suffer?

"Idiotic made up Western Propaganda"? You're spouting Nazi Propaganda.

I said you'll probably reply with Western propaganda claiming that there were was no German suppression. I didn't claim your post as Western Propaganda.

Are you saying Dentists ect. are not hard workers? They have the same right to live and have a decent job as any other man or woman.[/QUOTE]
Have that work is hard? Jews are steeling jobs from Germans who could work there, instead there is allien Jew.

Why should they exterminate them?
Yes, they are. Excluding the disabled, of course.
Whether its wrong or right is not the subject of this debate. Homosexuals have as much of a right to a job, home, country and to life as any other men.

Nazis had no other choice than to exterminate.
No they don't have, they are mentally ill, they have something wrong with their brains.

Which it was, it's ability to field a massive army and conquer much of Europe show this.

At industry Germany could no way come near USA. I didn't asked for military, German soldiers are simply better then anyone else's.
They could compete military, but not economically.

[Akar]

As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups.

Fair enough.

No, different kind of people.

Ahh. Well then, Germans could be considered aliens as well from the viewpoint of someone else.

Invaders: Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Turks, Arabs. Turks and Arabs are equal to German, but they have their own land to live.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/11/ge...e-by-2050.html
http://www.bionetonline.org/english/content/ll_leg2.htm

When you say "Invader" you mean people who move to Germany, not actual invaders, then. I fail to see how simply moving to Germany to start a life there is so offensive to you. You should be honored that they chose to move to Germany, rather than be offended by their existence.

It should be. Germany is no home for Jews.

And whys that?

So when Russia conquers Latvia, Latvian becomes Russian? What a stupid logic.
He tried to negotiate for half year, how long he will allow his people to suffer?

Define "Suffer", we appear to have different definitions of the word. The Poles were not torturing the Germans in concentration camps or exterminating them, as the Germans did to the poles. Germany killed 20% of the population of Poland during it's occupation of it. The majority of them civilians, killed by Germany and the Soviet Union. If it was a simple liberation as you say why where so extreme measures needed?

Have that work is hard? Jews are steeling jobs from Germans who could work there, instead there is allien Jew.

And of the Jews that were not "Aliens" but citizens of Germany?

Nazis had no other choice than to exterminate.

No other choice? Perhaps deportation or recruiting them into the army? The Holocaust has done nothing but harm Germany, both in the eyes of the world and in reparations payed to other nations that have only recently been payed off.

No they don't have, they are mentally ill, they have something wrong with their brains.

Nothing about being a Homosexual stops you from serving in the Army or in any other job.

At industry Germany could no way come near USA. I didn't asked for military, German soldiers are simply better then anyone else's.

Simply better? Nonsense. The German army was out maneuvered at El Almein by General Montgomery in Europe by numerous other American, French, Russian and British officers. If the German army and race is so superior to other races why did Germany lose the war?

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Ahh. Well then, Germans could be considered aliens as well from the viewpoint of someone else.

Only if they go to nations like China.

When you say "Invader" you mean people who move to Germany, not actual invaders, then. I fail to see how simply moving to Germany to start a life there is so offensive to you. You should be honored that they chose to move to Germany, rather than be offended by their existence.

They are invaders because they are destroying German culture and soon they will become more than Germans. Like I showed you Germans are extincting.
They should better stay in their own nation.

And whys that?

They are different race and must leave Germany for German people, they better go to Madagascar.

Define "Suffer", we appear to have different definitions of the word. The Poles were not torturing the Germans in concentration camps or exterminating them, as the Germans did to the poles. Germany killed 20% of the population of Poland during it's occupation of it. The majority of them civilians, killed by Germany and the Soviet Union. If it was a simple liberation as you say why where so extreme measures needed?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/album.php?albumid=3580
http://www.canadahistory.com/section...ytobritain.htm

And of the Jews that were not "Aliens" but citizens of Germany?

Jew can't become German. Jew is Jew for life, he can't change his nationality and race.

No other choice? Perhaps deportation or recruiting them into the army? The Holocaust has done nothing but harm Germany, both in the eyes of the world and in reparations payed to other nations that have only recently been payed off.

Where to deport? They are untranslatable and wouldn't be good in army and they would be bad soldiers anyway.

Nothing about being a Homosexual stops you from serving in the Army or in any other job.

Only if it's sent straight into the enemy lines.

Simply better? Nonsense. The German army was out maneuvered at El Almein by General Montgomery in Europe by numerous other American, French, Russian and British officers. If the German army and race is so superior to other races why did Germany lose the war?

Germans were outnumbered and lacked resources what allies had, British are also Germanic thus equal to Germans. African front failed because of treacherous and weak Italy.

[Akar]

Only if they go to nations like China.

–noun 1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization ( distinguished from citizen).

Not true.

They are invaders because they are destroying German culture and soon they will become more than Germans. Like I showed you Germans are extincting.
They should better stay in their own nation.

More than Germans, like what? You didn't show me that Germans were becoming extinct, I don't consider 81,000,000 people becoming extinct.

They are different race and must leave Germany for German people, they better go to Madagascar.

Other races help stimulate the culture and economy of a nation, why would you want to kick them all out?

http://www.canadahistory.com/section...ytobritain.htm

I'm not going to take Hitler's word for it.

Jew can't become German. Jew is Jew for life, he can't change his nationality and race.

Jew is not a nationality, it's a race like German or Roma. If a Jew is born into a German family, would he be a German? If not, why not?

Where to deport? They are untranslatable and wouldn't be good in army and they would be bad soldiers anyway.

They could have been deported to Africa as the British had planned to do, anything is better than the Holocaust. Untranslatable if they speak fluent German? You're grasping at straws here, have you ever seen the Israeli army before? They are some of the most skilled soldiers in the world.

Only if it's sent straight into the enemy lines.

"it". And why's that, GSC? You still haven't explained why a Homosexual has any less rights than any other male.

Germans were outnumbered and lacked resources what allies had, British are also Germanic thus equal to Germans. African front failed because of treacherous and weak Italy.

Germany had plenty of resources and weapons, they controlled most of Europe.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Not true.

So German can become Chinese? He will stay German forever no matter what he does.
Citizenship doesn't matter his nationality/race does.

More than Germans, like what? You didn't show me that Germans were becoming extinct, I don't consider 81,000,000 people becoming extinct.

That number will fall dramatically, it will lower by 15 million in 2050.
Number will be balanced by immigrants, but they aren't Germans.
I don't believe you can even claim that these millions of immigrants will assimilate.

Other races help stimulate the culture and economy of a nation, why would you want to kick them all out?

They are making lot of trouble, taking away places for German people to work, they don't contribute anything to German culture, they still believe their own.

I'm not going to take Hitler's word for it.

Of course everything what Westerners say is 100% truth and when Hitler talks no way it can be truth.

Jew is not a nationality, it's a race like German or Roma. If a Jew is born into a German family, would he be a German? If not, why not?

How can a Jew born to a German?

They could have been deported to Africa as the British had planned to do, anything is better than the Holocaust. Untranslatable if they speak fluent German? You're grasping at straws here, have you ever seen the Israeli army before? They are some of the most skilled soldiers in the world.

Germany planned to send Jews to Madagascar, Great powers were those who declined it.
They have only fought against Arabs. I would like them to fight against decent army like Turkish, they would eventually fail, Israel is also supported by USA.

"it". And why's that, GSC? You still haven't explained why a Homosexual has any less rights than any other male.

Can't answer this.

Germany had plenty of resources and weapons, they controlled most of Europe.

No rubber, no oil and many other resources unavailable in their country while allies had all of this.

[Akar]

So German can become Chinese? He will stay German forever no matter what he does.
Citizenship doesn't matter his nationality/race does.

Technially he would be Chinese as he would be a citizen of China. Though not racially, no.

That number will fall dramatically, it will lower by 15 million in 2050.
Number will be balanced by immigrants, but they aren't Germans.
I don't believe you can even claim that these millions of immigrants will assimilate.

They will, eventually. Usually the parents done assimilate whereas the children and their children's children have a far easier time assimilating.

They are making lot of trouble, taking away places for German people to work, they don't contribute anything to German culture, they still believe their own.

Untrue.

Of course everything what Westerners say is 100% truth and when Hitler talks no way it can be truth.

I didn't say that. I just said I'm not going to take Hitler's word for it that he tried everything he could to peacefully "Liberate" his people.

How can a Jew born to a German?

German woman, Jewish man.

Germany planned to send Jews to Madagascar, Great powers were those who declined it.
They have only fought against Arabs. I would like them to fight against decent army like Turkish, they would eventually fail, Israel is also supported by USA.

Israel was able to defeat Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan simultaneously who were support by numerous other nations. Military service is mandatory in Israel and their level of training is high, what makes you say Turkey would be able to defeat them so easily? Besides that they are Turkish, of course.

Can't answer this.

Because you don't know?

No rubber, no oil and many other resources unavailable in their country while allies had all of this.

France and Britain also imported their oil, your point?

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Technially he would be Chinese as he would be a citizen of China. Though not racially, no.

Only race and nationality matters, it determises what you are.

They will, eventually. Usually the parents done assimilate whereas the children and their children's children have a far easier time assimilating.

When that time would come Germans will be assimilating to them.

Untrue.

What good have they bringed them?

I didn't say that. I just said I'm not going to take Hitler's word for it that he tried everything he could to peacefully "Liberate" his people.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
Poland rejected everything and wanted war.

German woman, Jewish man.

Then he is Jew, not German.

Israel was able to defeat Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan simultaneously who were support by numerous other nations. Military service is mandatory in Israel and their level of training is high, what makes you say Turkey would be able to defeat them so easily? Besides that they are Turkish, of course.

Turkey has bigger and stronger army.
Turks have shown that they are very good and brave soldiers too.

Because you don't know?

Because I'll get another infraction.

France and Britain also imported their oil, your point?

British had oil in their colonies. And they could get in anywhere, unlike Germany which was under blockade.

[Akar]

Only race and nationality matters, it determises what you are.

Again, untrue. Race means nothing, it doesn't define who you are. Not to mention that you can move to another country and become a citizen. If you can do that so easily why is it one of the things you say determine what you are?

When that time would come Germans will be assimilating to them.

As long as the immigrants arrive in Germany they would have some desire to be a part of that culture, other wise why would they choose that country?

What good have they bringed them?

And why wouldn't they still practice their own culture as well? Germans and Nazis celebrate Christmas, which is a pagan holiday adapted to celebrate the birth of a Jew.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
Poland rejected everything and wanted war.

From the top of the article"The historical record, as represented by the German government at the time" Again, I'm not going to accept something said by the invading government, one known for spreading propaganda, as fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler

And in case you wont accept Wikipedia: http://911review.com/precedent/century/himmler.html

Then he is Jew, not German.

No, he would be German. Being born to a German would make you German, would it not?

Turkey has bigger and stronger army.
Turks have shown that they are very good and brave soldiers too.

And when was this? They haven't won a war in centuries. Besides, having a bigger army doesn't mean anything.

Because I'll get another infraction.

Sure...

British had oil in their colonies. And they could get in anywhere, unlike Germany which was under blockade.

Because they were at war.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Again, untrue. Race means nothing, it doesn't define who you are. Not to mention that you can move to another country and become a citizen. If you can do that so easily why is it one of the things you say determine what you are?

When moving you don't lose your nationality.

As long as the immigrants arrive in Germany they would have some desire to be a part of that culture, other wise why would they choose that country?

They choose it because they can get lot of $$$ and nothing more.

And why wouldn't they still practice their own culture as well? Germans and Nazis celebrate Christmas, which is a pagan holiday adapted to celebrate the birth of a Jew.

Christmas isn't pagan, it's part of Christianity holidays.

From the top of the article"The historical record, as represented by the German government at the time" Again, I'm not going to accept something said by the invading government, one known for spreading propaganda, as fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler

And in case you wont accept Wikipedia: http://911review.com/precedent/century/himmler.html

I better believe what Hitler has said not this made up .
When Western say something then it's 100% truth, yeah sure.
Can't you realize that they make up things, to make Nazis look evil?

No, he would be German. Being born to a German would make you German, would it not?

He is born to a Jew, he is hybrid then. Race mixing isn't a good thing.

And when was this? They haven't won a war in centuries. Besides, having a bigger army doesn't mean anything.

Invasion of Cyprus in 1974, Fighting for freedom.

Because they were at war.

Still they lacked these resources what British Empire, USA and USRR had.

[Akar]

They choose it because they can get lot of $$$ and nothing more.

That is certainly not true.
http://www.immigration.net.in/top-se...ple-immigrate/

Christmas isn't pagan, it's part of Christianity holidays.

Christmas is an adapted Pagan holiday, adapted to Christianity.

I better believe what Hitler has said not this made up .

Now, Hitler isn't exactly the most trustworthy person. He ordered millions of his own people executed and invaded Russia despite his non-aggression pact with them.

When Western say something then it's 100% truth, yeah sure.
Can't you realize that they make up things, to make Nazis look evil?

I could say the same about your sources, but with the Allies.

He is born to a Jew, he is hybrid then. Race mixing isn't a good thing.

He isn't born to a Jew, he is born to a German.

Invasion of Cyprus in 1974, Fighting for freedom.

Oh good, they beat a tiny island nation. According to the Wikipedia military sizes charts, Cyprus had 35 tanks and 5,000 men, where as Turkey had 60,000 men and 200 tanks. Not to mention the Turkish air-force and navy. Even a country with a terrible military, according to you, like Syria could have beaten Cyprus.

Still they lacked these resources what British Empire, USA and USRR had.

They had them, even if they were imported.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

That is certainly not true.
http://www.immigration.net.in/top-se...ple-immigrate/

Lol the 1st reason is what I said and none of them are what you suggested.

Christmas is an adapted Pagan holiday, adapted to Christianity.

It's the day when Jesus was born.

Now, Hitler isn't exactly the most trustworthy person. He ordered millions of his own people executed and invaded Russia despite his non-aggression pact with them.

What millions of his people? Who where they? Jews? They aren't Germans and his people.
It was pre-emtive strike to USRR before it invades Europe, would you like all Europe to be Communist?

He isn't born to a Jew, he is born to a German.

He is created from Jew, he is Jew born to German.

Oh good, they beat a tiny island nation. According to the Wikipedia military sizes charts, Cyprus had 35 tanks and 5,000 men, where as Turkey had 60,000 men and 200 tanks. Not to mention the Turkish air-force and navy. Even a country with a terrible military, according to you, like Syria could have beaten Cyprus.

Nice how you totally ignore independence war what I said.
And Turkey was also at war with Greece when it invaded Cyprus.

They had them, even if they were imported.

They still couldn't get them enough while allies could.

[Akar]

Lol the 1st reason is what I said and none of them are what you suggested.

The first one listed was yours, yes. That doesn't mean its the only or most significant reason people would immigrate.

It's the day when Jesus was born.

Jesus was a Jew so why do Nazis celebrate the birth of a Jew?

What millions of his people? Who where they? Jews? They aren't Germans and his people.

Jews were citizens of Germany, and thus his people.

It was pre-emtive strike to USRR before it invades Europe, would you like all Europe to be Communist?

The USSR wasn't going to invade Europe. And even if it did it wouldn't have been able to make it all communist, Russia could hardly even beat Germany. They only won due to the winter.

He is created from Jew, he is Jew born to German.

So what if they man was German and the woman was Jew? Would it be a German born to a jew?

Nice how you totally ignore independence war what I said.

Independance of what? As far as I can tell all they did was take half of Cyprus.

And Turkey was also at war with Greece when it invaded Cyprus.

Greece didn't contribute a significant force to the war in Cyprus.

They still couldn't get them enough while allies could.

Again, because they were at war with the Allies. Of course the Allies didn't allow them access to these resources.

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The first one listed was yours, yes. That doesn't mean its the only or most significant reason people would immigrate.

You said untrue then, but it was truth though, just one of the reasons.

Jesus was a Jew so why do Nazis celebrate the birth of a Jew?

I'm Muslim anyway.

And Hitler stated this:
"The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

Jews were citizens of Germany, and thus his people.

The USSR wasn't going to invade Europe. And even if it did it wouldn't have been able to make it all communist, Russia could hardly even beat Germany. They only won due to the winter.

It was going to do it in 1945-1948. It was waiting when Germany will deal with rest of the Europe including British Empire.

So what if they man was German and the woman was Jew? Would it be a German born to a jew?

Again hybrid.

Independance of what? As far as I can tell all they did was take half of Cyprus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish...f_Independence

Greece didn't contribute a significant force to the war in Cyprus.

Still Cyprus wasn't alone in the war.

Again, because they were at war with the Allies. Of course the Allies didn't allow them access to these resources.

But you stated that they didn't lacked them, so you can now agree that they did and they weren't available?








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You said untrue then, but it was truth though, just one of the reasons.

"They choose it because they can get lot of $$$ and nothing more." I said "Untrue" to the nothing more, there are obviously other reasons than money, you can't dispute that.

And Hitler stated this:
"The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

And yet Hitler was a Roman Catholic

It was going to do it in 1945-1948. It was waiting when Germany will deal with rest of the Europe including British Empire.

Do you have any evidence to back this up? The USSR was poor and had a numerous but poorly trained army, as was shown by the invasion of Finland.

Again hybrid.

And what is wrong with this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish...f_Independence

I stand corrected.

Still Cyprus wasn't alone in the war.

You say that being at war with Greece is an excuse to invade Cyprus, yes? You still haven't explained how their invasion of a small island nation with next to no army is a better test of Turkey's strength than Israel taking on a large portion of the Middle East.

But you stated that they didn't lacked them, so you can now agree that they did and they weren't available?

You're not making any sense here. I said that they were able to get them before the war. Of course they weren't able to get the resources during the war, they were at war with many of the people who supplied the resources.