The Super Duper Uber Elite Frankish Crusaders Mod

**chris7ian** · July 16, 2011, 07:42 PM

Its Christmas in July! I'm developing new "toys" for us REAL Christian boys. I'm looking for ideas on perfecting the Frankish playing experience. So far I've edited town names, and sent crusaders home. Looking for more suggestions, such as:
Free cost for Templars and Hopitallers etc, while reduced pools. They paid for themselves afterall.
Making Bohemund marriable to your princesses, really worth it, huge discounts.

**1.FILISTEN.1** · July 16, 2011, 07:46 PM

thats great

**kingman1337** · July 16, 2011, 11:13 PM

Maybe lower the recruitment queue for Frankish units, but have a decent aor. Then they won't blitz the entire Western Middle East!

ex (Vanilla BC 2.3).

AGAINST

Ayyubids keep losing to Crusaders! Poor Saladin!

**chris7ian** · July 17, 2011, 09:09 AM

[FQUOTE=kingman1337;9939070]Maybe lower the recruitment queue for Frankish units, but have a decent aor. Then they won't blitz the entire Western Middle East!

ex (Vanilla BC 2.3).

AGAINST

Ayyubids keep losing to Crusaders! Poor Saladin![/QUOTE]

Let us not forget idiot Templars where more detrimental to the KoJ than Saladman. Nobody halfway intelligent would engage Saladman at Hattin like Gerard de Dumb____ did. If France, England, or the HRE had decided to take levant, no orders, no coalitions, it would have. Only threat would have been the mongols. I agree with limiting their availability.
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I also have changed duke ancillary titles to count with the obvious exceptions:
King of jerusalem
Prince of Antioch, jaffa, damascus, constsntinople, given to heirs inline for the throne
Duke of egypt, mesopotamia, india,
Rest are counties

**kingman1337** · July 17, 2011, 11:20 AM

Excellent

**SoulBlade** · July 17, 2011, 12:26 PM

Unrecruitable knightly units and entirely AoR levies?

**kingman1337** · July 17, 2011, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by SoulBlade

Unrecruitable knightly units and entirely AoR levies?

AGAINST

Ayyubids are at the right. Better?

**Prince of Judah** · July 17, 2011, 06:10 PM

Thankfully i stopped myself from making rude remarks about the name of your submod. Anywho... It would make much more sense to make slight adjustments to the edu, making frankish troops not total crap, than to make an UBER CRUSADER MOD which no one will play except for the few people who want to play an unchallenging campaign as the KoJ. You should go about this more professionally (and not alienating people who would otherwise play your submod.) I would suggest configuring the edu to reflect the type and amount of armor used historically, rather than the how the mod's units are portrayed. I'm sure your submod would be good if you changed the name and did thorough balance testing (perhaps get others interested to do this as well), something I do extensively for several mods.

**chris7ian** · July 17, 2011, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Imperiumiv

Thankfully i stopped myself from making rude remarks about the name of your submod. Anywho... It would make much more sense to make slight adjustments to the edu, making frankish troops not total crap, than to make an UBER CRUSADER MOD which no one will play except for the few people who want to play an unchallenging campaign as the KoJ. You should go about this more professionally (and not alienating people who would otherwise play your submod.) I would suggest configuring the edu to reflect the type and amount of armor used historically (to the best of current research), rather than the how the mods' units are portrayed. I'm sure your submod would be good if you changed the name and consulted some researchers on twc.

I love how these forums are full of intellectuals who know everything about everthing. Maybe before posting a rude comment you might consider you aren't privy to my thoughts, desires, cares, and accept the possibility that I don't care about what you think...

If you actually read, assuming you can comprehend english, you would see I'm limiting the crusaders and making them more historically accurate.

For those who know my submod name is sarcasm directed at some kid, I halved recruitment cost and upkeep for the orders and decreased replenishment by a tenth. I'm going to try some hotseats to see if the ai ne then try it myself.

**Prince of Judah** · July 17, 2011, 06:26 PM

If you so desire, I'll never comment on this thread again.

**chris7ian** · July 17, 2011, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Imperiumiv

If you so desire, I'll never comment on this thread again.

Comment all you want just comment about what we are doing not what "you think" we are doing. One kid flamed me already for sending crusaders off map, I'm not putting up with that nonsense again.

**chris7ian** · July 17, 2011, 07:28 PM

If this name is too catchy how about the decreased operating upkeep cost helping encorporate balanced ai gameplay mod?

**MA5C 7RUTH** · August 24, 2011, 04:15 PM

Is this actually being worked on? I'd appreciate a good crusader mod.

**Smokey Bacon** · October 17, 2011, 04:48 PM

Well if I'm honest I clicked on this mod because I thought it would be amusing to read but I see that the name is misleading. Maybe a name change would be a good idea as most people who are interested in balance and historical accuracy arn't likely to look at a mod with a name like this, unless, as in my case, they thought it would be a funny read. Your name will probably mainly attract people who actually want a really easy campaign, or those nuts who pop-up on here from time to time, who are convinved that the Crusaders were awesome and all the Islamic natives were rag wearing peasents.

Now I hope it is clear I'm not trying to be rude or insulting, just giving an honest opinion that I hope you will agree is constructive.