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Suzuki
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Your wrong
ON the matter of the dead some luaghed but other said we will see thee on this matter again.
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Hime
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Looks like hes right to me.
Its well known to be a waste of money and well known to cause health problems. Unless your a tobacco lobbyist you would agree.
Hell most atheletics programs, in schools or professional, will kick you out of your team for smoking as they KNOW its bad for your health.
Same with certain segments of the armed forces. At my brother's naval base smoking was banned for health reasons, thought that strange actually.
Though on the other side my maternal grandfather smoked for around 70 years and died of kidney failure. Though he did have SEVERE lung problems.
I am far more reasonable.
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Lack of discussion and instead simple attacks shows that you have been proven wrong.
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Chinen
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Hey I have facts, science, and the educated society on my side. Don't just say I'm wrong. And plus that wierd guy from your sig is looking at me. aaag. It looks wierd with you saying 'you're wrong'. Yeah, why?
RZZZA - you're argument is totally wrong. If hella people jump of a bridge, with many of them dying, but some living. Would you also jump? In the ultimitle end, those retards who jumped off the bridge and died, well died. And never had a chance to prove themselves to be smart. So saying if a few luckly live on, its good for all? You can apply this to the holocaust, 6 mill dead, 4 mill live. My argument is supplemented with science and numbers, while yours is supported with ancedotes, and is therefore impossible to understand. I mean the only reason smoking isn't banned is because too many people are hooked on it.
Relating to humankind....we love to look at the good things and show success, but the bad things definetly outwiegh them. Look at Hitler, he bought employment, what was the cost?
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
I just knew it would be you to disagree with me. First of all moderate use of alcohol is not what we are talking about here. Plenty of very successful business men enjoy a toast at an evening meal or a late night cigar, that isn't what I'm talking about. The fact of the matter is, the focused and healthy individual will accomplish tasks better and faster than a junky or alcoholic. In my personal experience (meaning people that I know), drug addiction and alcoholism have a very harsh and negative effect on the individuals performs at his or her job/career/profession. Do you think that Bill Gates or Donald Trump would be in the position they are now if they were alcoholics or drug addicts? If you think they would there is something seriously, seriously wrong with you.
Suzuki
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
He was concentrating on him not the dawm issue
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Suguchi
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
That's the most retarted thing I've heard all day. Thank you.
Oh you just gotta love the old bridge argument cliche.
And wth does attempted genocide have to do with smoking?
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
RZZZA is using an interesting mechanism for selective data-gathering in his methodology: he dismisses all cases of drug abuse when discussing the effect of drug use. Never mind that the most grave concern about drug use is the tendency for it to spiral into abuse; he simply brushes that whole problem aside by declaring that drug abuse is irrelevant.
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
When you say the most common tendency of drug use is the tendency for it to spiral into abuse what drugs are you talking about?
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Any drug which has an addictive characteristic. Really, to deny that abuse is an intrinsic tendency of drugs is to deny the very concept of addictive drugs; it is tantamount to saying that there is no such thing as an addictive substance.
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
OK, fancy shmancy stuff aside, which drugs are you talking about? Because I don't think you know.
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Pit Bull
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Good examples are nicotine, cocaine, meth, etc. If you have a point, make it.
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Trust me I'll make my point. I just want to make it clear to everyone which drugs are addictive. So nicotine Cocaine and meth. Anything else?
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Maybe if you had the knowledge to read between lines you would know. I am not talking about smoking, but the argument RZZZA makes. Thats an invalid argument that goes through with minor success and ignores the drastic failures. Hitler restored Germany and it's economy, but at what cost? You can smoke, and countless people will not live their lives to the extent they should. Some will, doubtlessly, but there will be more who'll be lost through addiction. RZZZA, being one of those few luckies, ignores everyone else, and blinds himself only to success.
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
No, you're still comparing apples to oranges, I don't care what RZZZA said, I'm talking about what you said which makes little sense, and as for what RZZZA says, I would have to agree with most of it. If you can compare smoking, which is a personal choice, to a evil dictator who forced people into submission torture and death and starvation (and the list goes on) you could probably compare smoking to just about anything in the whole wide world. You're trying to make a petty argument of X vs. cost/sacrifice, but guess what? Most things in life are a case of X vs. cost/sacrifice when you think about it, you can successfully compare smoking to eating a slice of cake, or skipping a day of school.
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
Babies don't come out with low birthweight because their mommy ate a piece of cake or skipped a day of school while they were in utero.
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
So? Cool, you were able to point out a difference between eating cake and smoking a cigg. Nontheless, can I not compare smoking a ciggarette to eating a slice of cake or skipping a day at school successfully? Surely you can't say that it can't be done. Oh and I'm not a woman, so that example doesn't work for men.
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Jukutatsu shita
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
For anyone here who wants to claim that smoking, drinking excessively, and using drugs are not unhealthy habits, your wrong. Period.
Suguchi
Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
^lol no one claimed that
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Re: How badly does smoking affect fitness?
That is exactly right imo, and I am a person who doesnt deny himself cake and skipping school every so often. (or whenever I want to). That is not wrong to me, its a personal choice I make regardless of the consequences, which include people like Darth turning their noses up at me or my actions. I say "consequences be damned! I'll do what I want". And no, I dont think about people whove had the trachea rings installed in their throats when I go for my square, just like I dont think about the stupid pothead on the couch cliche when I go to pack a bowl...and its so obvious that many other people do work their way to or from those negative associates. Drugs=negative and thats it, well thats not how I think, as a person who made it one of my goals to try as many drugs as I chose to in my life with a sense of moderation and responsibility going in, from a pretty young age. I just dont think like that, I dont let my preconcieved notions and strict moral guidelines ruin my perception of potentially useful (and fun) chemicals, that used responsibly, could bring a lot of benefit to humans and mankind.
edit-and yes, cigs relate to this, because I also consider them in the same feild as drugs. I disagree with this trend for legislation that bans smoking in all places, and hikes square prices to damn near crack prices. Thats wrong imo.
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