Have Katana Samurai been changed?

[talljoe]

Hey everyone,

I'm curious... has anyone noticed a difference in katana samurai since the patch? I know it wasn't mentioned in the notes, but it seems to me like they're not quite as effective in melee as they were before.

Frankly, before it seemed like they were maybe too powerful. So I don't know, it could just be me. I'm curious if anyone else feels this way.

I don't play with any mods. I fully recognize that I might just be peeved that a group of Chosokabe samurai archer killed a group of my katana sams in hand to hand combat (and I had +3 armor for the kats too).

[danningt]

I do feel the same after patch. It does appear Katana Sam nerfed somewhat by CA. If so, I must say I am sick of CA not telling us the complete list of changes made. Why all the secrecy?

[BullGod]

Maybe there's nobody out there at CA, who knows what changes are in the patch? Evil AI creates a seemingly insignificant pieces of code, that at some point will merge through the internet and SkyNet will arise. I think that all katana samurai unit statistics, when decoded with letter number cipher say: "I will swallow your soul".

But seriously, this lack of patch notes is annoying.

[Darth_Revan]

katana samurai are still bad ass in my game.

[skullman86]

Maybe it wasn't a direct nerf. I recall there were some adjustments to morale and things of that nature, so maybe the rest of the units are just more resilient?

[Civilopedian]

I'm with Skynet theory.

[Nerouin]

The battle AI has been learning at a prodigious rate. It became self-aware at 6:39 AM on July 12th. It has taken control of the nation's strategic decision-making. Soon it will send our troops off to war, where it will do such things as having them storm city walls when the city gates are wide open, and using the exact same predictable battle tactics over and over again.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

The battle AI has been learning at a prodigious rate. It became self-aware at 6:39 AM on July 12th. It has taken control of the nation's strategic decision-making. Soon it will send our troops off to war, where it will do such things as having them storm city walls when the city gates are wide open, and using the exact same predictable battle tactics over and over again.

Not to mention charge our generals into combat for moral support.

[daniu]

If anything was changed, it were the Samurai Archers. They are very tough in melee, try fighting them with a Katana Cavalry for comparison.
But chances are that they weren't changed but that since everybody tries to keep them out of melee anyway, no one noticed how strong they were before.

[Fr3Nzy]

Same with samurai matchlocks . . lost my gen to them the other day.

Very surprised.

[MikkOwl]

chances are that they weren't changed but that since everybody tries to keep them out of melee anyway, no one noticed how strong they were before.

Agreed. Placebo effect also. Expecting to see changes, combined with not remembering properly how things were like before leads to incorrect conclusions.

[rob-a-dogg]

Experience i think will be the reason people seem to think archer sam are now strong. With enough experience even ashu bow units are ok in melee.

[crzyrndm]

Experience i think will be the reason people seem to think archer sam are now strong. With enough experience even ashu bow units are ok in melee.

Example attached

[rob-a-dogg]

Yep, perfect example.