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[Alcibiades of Athens]

Wow, ferres, stunning work...

[Pinarius]

Wow, very cool Antonine Cavalry. I would only twist the front guard a little bit, so that it doesn't look so turned up. Here is another reference:

[GODzilla]

Just passing by and I want to say that it is really awsome that you two - ferres and pinarius - continue the project!

The new units are looking great. It seems it's actually good I quited this, you bring it to a grade of quality I would never had been able to.

Keep up the great work. If I ever play rtw again I'll be looking for a new Modding Legions version first!

PS: I'm better erasing my signature, guess the links are outdated??

[ferres]

Wow, very cool Antonine Cavalry. I would only twist the front guard a little bit, so that it doesn't look so turned up. Here is another reference:

Lol!
There are many historical versions with the 'guard' turned upwards. Most referrence I got showed them that way. Unless of course that pic of yours is an infantry version. Variations of this helm type may have been used for both cavalry and infantry like the Niederbieber type and Junkel type. This seemed to coincide with the abandonment of the scutum for the flat oval shield used in the late empire. :hmmm:

Hey, Godzilla. When the units are all done, I may need you help for uploads.

[Pinarius]

another view of that helmet-type (not the same, but related:

I think we can give the "normal" Niederbieber to the Auxilary troops, both cavalry and infantry:

The main difference to the one above is the closed cheeguards at the chin:



I'm afraid your Imperial Italic helmets are not in the Antonine time-frame.... :hmmm:

[ferres]

Hey, Pinarius.

I think the later evolution of the itallic, like the late weisenau was still in the timeline of the Antonine dynasty. This would be the once with the wide crossbracing.

I implement the simpler bronze gallic for Aux infantry. My worry about implementing the 'Niederbieber' for aux infantry is that they will look far more heavily armoured than the standard legionaries. The Spqr mod has a Sword Aux infantry, perhaps that could be used as a basis for a 'heavy armored' auxillia troop. We'll see... :hmmm:

Anyhow, the Antonine cavalry auxillia models are done with it's texture and gloss files for Julii. Decurion for them is also done. Not yet started on the velixia though.

I'll try to start on the Niederbieber helm for the legionary cavalry and texture stuff for the Easter Legionary type.

[Pinarius]

Imperial Italic are of course in the timeline, but later ones (type G and H):

http://www.banfiarts.com/categorie%2...elmi/ER006.jpg (G) (Hebron-helmet of Hadrian's era)

http://www.legionsix.org/neideroblique.jpg (H from late 2nd century - this would be the one they should have used for "Gladiator")
http://www.legionsix.org/dp5164b.jpg (H)

I admit the differences to your helmet (type D from the first century AD) isn't very big, it's mainly the decorations that are different.

[ferres]

This is the back view of the late Weisenau helm for praetorian legionaries.

Imperial Italic are of course in the timeline, but later ones (type G and H):

I admit the differences to your helmet (type D from the first century AD) isn't very big, it's mainly the decorations that are different.

[AlCord]

Man ferres this is outstanding work. Because of freetime I consider to make some new unit cards for these new legions
For the last picture I would say to remove the bronze handle at the neck guard. It looks a bit odd but still very nice legions :original:

[Isnogood]

Ama-ziiiiing, ferres!

These guys look really sharp and it looks the old triumvirate + 1 is back in town.You,Pinarius,Godzilla and now AlCord...the Republic is in danger, I say...

[ferres]

Great!
Will still be a few weeks before all is done. Having some confusion with auxillia units, whether to implement the new 'Niederbieber' helm for all.

Yeah, the Niederbieber helm is done. I'll first test it out with late skirmishers. I guess we'll have to call them heavy roman peltasts now.
They have mail armor, Niederbieber helm, oval shield and a bag of spears

Still have to do officers, late segtata legionnaires, aux archers and legionary cavs. Then get the texture done.

Man ferres this is outstanding work. Because of freetime I consider to make some new unit cards for these new legions
For the last picture I would say to remove the bronze handle at the neck guard. It looks a bit odd but still very nice legions :original:

[JP226]

2 weeks roughly ferres???

[Frost]

Hi ferres, amazing work! I loved the previous versions of modding legions, they got better and better with each new release. But i got some questions, the legionaries II on page 111, are they the final ones? I waited so long for such a version without trousers! Are their helmets finally done or will they be upgraded, because they seem to be very "simple" compared to the ones of the praetorians....and i recognized that there's again this "evil" white spot on top of the helmet which was in the previous versions annoying too and got finally solved in the last release. Or will there be possibly an alternate version with crucified helmet like in release 1.3b? :hmmm:
btw, i'm happy to see you again on the fields of "modding"honor, your romans and AlCords UI-cards will make this to an excellent release!

[Serben]

Hey ferres, could you add a wood texture on the insides of the shields like in "DarthMod"? I think it would make the shields look way better.

[Callicles]

I'm looking for a great set of Marian (1st Century BC) Roman Generals. Anyone have suggestions?

[Lusted]

The scutum shield did not have an uncovered wooden back, the back looks like how Ferres already has it.

[ferres]

Hi ferres, amazing work! I loved the previous versions of modding legions, they got better and better with each new release. But i got some questions, the legionaries II on page 111, are they the final ones? I waited so long for such a version without trousers! Are their helmets finally done or will they be upgraded, because they seem to be very "simple" compared to the ones of the praetorians....and i recognized that there's again this "evil" white spot on top of the helmet which was in the previous versions annoying too and got finally solved in the last release. Or will there be possibly an alternate version with crucified helmet like in release 1.3b? :hmmm:
btw, i'm happy to see you again on the fields of "modding"honor, your romans and AlCords UI-cards will make this to an excellent release!

You can consider all units from page 111 as outdated and replaced or are being replaced. the evil white spot was a 'feature' of the Agrippa helm the old units were based on. All new units will have new modeled helms, eliminating the white spot.

All helms are being modeled in the Antonine 2nd century troop types and crossbracing seems to be a kind of 'in fashion' primarily due to the Dacian wars.

Unfortunately, this era is also a trouser era.

[ferres]

WIPS pics:
Skirmisher

Sword_aux:

Antonine_Auxcav with Decurion Final:

2nd century Legion II front:

Backview notice helm handles fixed:

[ferres]

2 weeks roughly ferres???

Can't say. They'll be done when they're done.

[ajimenez3]

Glad to see you back and working on your great units.
Take your time and make them, as they have always been, the best units around.


Semper Fi
Arturo