The 2011/2012 :wub:ship and below discussion thread

[Sharpe's Company]

Can't wait, won't be able sleep tonight.



more away days like this please

[♔hammeredalways♔]

a child of 66, so yes I remember Lou Macari, he inherited a poor team, and we had only a few highlights, blinked and he was gone

do you know I opened the Fantasy football thread and expected it to be about Cardiff and Palace winning promotion, but then remembered it is a Fantasy thread, not a bloody miracle thread

[Sharpe's Company]

Ah, so I bet you're a massive Trev fan then or Alvin Martin your boyhood hero?

I heard Fat Sam on the radio and he said he wants promotion this season, anything else would be a failure. Is that what most hammers think?

As for Palace, I know we have a fan on here but I don't think they can make it this season, but I expect Cardiff to be up there with the Hammers, they have got some new players, Earnie is back there after his time at Forest, proven at this level.

Also got Kenny Miller

Oh can you spare a G for Trev ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQIW_XttjVQ

[Tim1988]

Based purely on the second half of last season under Dougie Freedman once Burley had gone, Palace were comfortably mid table based on results. This season the only players we've lost are Gardner and Danns, and we've brought in players to replace them (3 internationals so far), so I'm confident we'll stay up, especially if we can get a good season out of Ambrose.

Promotion is too far though, I predict lower middle table for us.

[♔hammeredalways♔]

Alvin was great, forever immortalised for whacking Woodcock in front of us in the Clock end at Highbury, whilst it was all going off further up the pitch - unfortunately the line o saw him, but it was sweet

But defenders has to be Sir Bob, there are no others

Tonka I don't miss penalties Stewart

Brooking great player, lovely man I once had the privelege of working with him at a presentation

My favourite though was Devonshire, what a player - I suppose one of the reasons I dislike Wigan so much after the awful tackle on him by their players (that and their flat caps whippets, crap pies, plastic stadium, muppet chairman and mickey mouse fans don't help I suppose)

As of today I will be highly surprised if we do not go up, Leicester and Forest will probbly be there or thereabouts along with Cardiff (assuming they recover from their stuffing this sunday)

Palace should be safe, though I expect that the Seagulls will finish above them

[Derbiean]

A summary of my football club:

Derby County Football Club

Nickname: The Rams

Founded: 1884

Honours: Division One: Champions 1971/72, 74/75; runners-up 1895/96, 1929/30, 35/36

Division Two: Champions 1911/12, 14/15, 68/69, 86/87; runners-up 1925/26, 1995/96; play-off winners 2006/07
Division Three (North): Champions 1956/57
FA Cup: Winners 1946; runners-up 1898, 1899, 1903
League Cup: Semi-final 1968
Texaco Cup: Winners 1972
Watney Cup: Winners 1970
Charity Shield: Winners 1975
European Cup: 1972/73 semi-final; 75/76 second round
UEFA Cup: 1974/75 third round, 1976/77 second round
Anglo-Italian Cup: Runners-up 1993 (beaten 3-1 by Cremonese at Wembley)
Wembley Stadium: FA Cup winners 1946; Charity Shield winners 1975; Anglo-Italian Cup runners-up 1993; play-off final runners-up 1994; play-off final winners 2007
Record goalscorer: Steve Bloomer (1892-1905, 1910-1913) 332 (293 league, 38 FA Cup, one other)
Most appearances: Kevin Hector (1966-1977, 1980-1981) 581+8 (478+8 league, 34 FA Cup, 42 League Cup, 27 other)

Our golden age was the early and mid 70's, 1st under Brian Clough and his side-kick Peter Taylor then Dave Mackay.

Derby County's all time 11

GK Colin Boulton
RB Ron Webster
CB Igor Stimac
CB Roy McFarland
LB David Nish
RM Stefano Eranio
LM Alan Hinton
CM Archie Gemmill
CM Alan Durban
FW Kevin Hector
FW Steve Bloomer

Other ex-players worthy of a mention: Seth Johnson, sold for a club record of £7m to Leeds and then returned to us for nothing when Leeds terminated his contract, sacrificed his football career by staying on in his final match for us despite being injured in the play off final against West Brom in 2007 (we won 1-0 and promotion to the premiership) when asked by a fan why he stayed on despite being injured his reply was "well we won didn't we?"

Tom Huddlestone, sold for a ridiculously low fee of 500k to Spurs and in a cruel twist of fate scores his league goal on loan at Wolverhampton Wanders against....Derby.

Kris Commons, poached from our East Midlands rivals Notts Forest, scored a thunderbolt in a 1-0 win against Man Utd in the carling cup in 2009 and scored the winner to seal a epic comeback 3-2 win at the home of Notts Forest in 2009 after Derby went 2-0 down.

Peter Shilton.

Mart Poom, ex-Estonian goalkeeper and now goalkeeping coach for Arsenal and Estonia, unbelievably scored AGAINST Derby in a match for Sunderland.

Paulo Wanchope, scoring a tremendous goal against Man Utd in 1997, skinning 3 defenders before calmly sliding the ball past Peter Schemichael into the net.

Current manager is Nigel Clough, son of Brian.

Our biggest rivals, Nottingham Forest, Leicester City and Leeds United.

[Erebus Pasha]

Kris Commons the fat - a gifted player but a right greedy . The lifelong Forest fan ran off across the A52 and then screwed the Rams over for Celtic. Watch him screw over the Bhoys for the 'Gers in the near future.

The Rams (and I'm being polite here) look to have a stable set-up this season - Shackell is a good signing and you've nicked Tyson off us. Fast as lightning is Nath but for the last two seasons he couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo at the City Ground and spent a fare bit of time injured too. Got to applaud agent Clough though for getting involved in the Bombardier dispute.

[Derbiean]

Kris Commons the fat - a gifted player but a right greedy . The lifelong Forest fan ran off across the A52 and then screwed the Rams over for Celtic. Watch him screw over the Bhoys for the 'Gers in the near future.

The Rams (and I'm being polite here) look to have a stable set-up this season - Shackell is a good signing and you nicked Tyson off us. Fast as lightning is Nath but for the last two seasons he couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo at the City Ground and spent a fare bit of time injured too.

On that subject he's out of tomorrow's match as he's....injured...and aye your right about Commons

With regards to the Reds i can't make up my mind how you will do as you've lost a fair amount of players and only bought 3 in (2 of them should be good, not sure on Boateng), if you have luck with injuries (the opposite of what we have ) and suspensions then you should be there abouts, hopefully we can kick on this season, certainly the aim is for the play offs however the injuries need to clear up and we still need a couple of decent players to bring in. The adrenaline is flowing now

[Sharpe's Company]

Kris Commons the fat - a gifted player but a right greedy . The lifelong Forest fan ran off across the A52 and then screwed the Rams over for Celtic. Watch him screw over the Bhoys for the 'Gers in the near future.

The Rams (and I'm being polite here) look to have a stable set-up this season - Shackell is a good signing and you've nicked Tyson off us. Fast as lightning is Nath but for the last two seasons he couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo at the City Ground and spent a fare bit of time injured too. Got to applaud agent Clough though for getting involved in the Bombardier dispute.

Seem to recall he screwed Stoke to join Forest in the first place.

Personaly never really rated him, great at championship level, SPL about his level if you ask me.

[Erebus Pasha]

On that subject he's out of tomorrow's match as he's....injured...and aye your right about Commons

Watch him spend more time in the physio's room once Cloughie starts playing him out wide.

With regards to the Reds i can't make up my mind how you will do as you've lost a fair amount of players and only bought 3 in (2 of them should be good, not sure on Boateng), if you have luck with injuries (the opposite of what we have ) and suspensions then you should be there abouts, hopefully we can kick on this season, certainly the aim is for the play offs however the injuries need to clear up and we still need a couple of decent players to bring in. The adrenaline is flowing now

It's a worry tbh. We've lost some experience but we've gained some too but we've come up short in a lot of potential deals. I think Stevie Mac has had his hands tied though due to money constraints and the infamous transfers acquisitions committee that so frustrated Billy Davies. I am worried about our lack of squad depth.

I think Derby can be in and around the top 6 if they stay free of injuries (like you've said). You had a good run at the start of last season IIRC but around December and January you faltered badly.

@Sharpe's Company - aye. How you think Vale are going to do?

[♔hammeredalways♔]

Vale - there gonna win the league, Ben Williamson to star, promoted along with Crawley, Swindon and ANother?

Well I saw nothing from Hull tonight, Hull left winger for them looked ok, Blackpool a little disappointing from last years entertainment but should be in and around the Play-offs

Looking forward to seeing Southampton Leeds on the box tomorrow, before heading off on Sunday to the Hammers BBQ the Bluebirds,

[Sharpe's Company]

Ben Williamson, where did you pull his name from I've not seen him yet, only been to one pre-season match and he didn't feature.

At the start of last season I would of said we were going to win the league but then came christmas, Micky Adams went to Sheff United, we appointed a complete knob as a manager and we fell from top of the league to 11th come the end of the season, with us making national headlines for all the wrong reasons, with our fans attacking our manager, racial abusing one of his players, and mass protests against the board.

Adams is now back but it's not the same as the start of last season, we don't really know what the season has in store for us, I want promotion of course, this is the 4th season now in League Two, I've been going Vale week after week now for 20 years and before we went down to League Two, I'd never seen us in this Division before and quite frankly it's a blood nightmare, although it's good for a away jolly's, we tend to take large away numbers, and even against the likes of Macclesfield Town, a fairly localish match we have more fans at their ground than they do

Hope we give Crawley a nice welcome to Football League, we have played over 100 seasons in the League, this is their first, lets hope it shows

[Derbiean]

Ben Williamson, where did you pull his name from I've not seen him yet, only been to one pre-season match and he didn't feature.

At the start of last season I would of said we were going to win the league but then came christmas, Micky Adams went to Sheff United, we appointed a complete knob as a manager and we fell from top of the league to 11th come the end of the season, with us making national headlines for all the wrong reasons, with our fans attacking our manager, racial abusing one of his players, and mass protests against the board.

Adams is now back but it's not the same as the start of last season, we don't really know what the season has in store for us, I want promotion of course, this is the 4th season now in League Two, I've been going Vale week after week now for 20 years and before we went down to League Two, I'd never seen us in this Division before and quite frankly it's a blood nightmare, although it's good for a away jolly's, we tend to take large away numbers, and even against the likes of Macclesfield Town, a fairly localish match we have more fans at their ground than they do

Hope we give Crawley a nice welcome to Football League, we have played over 100 seasons in the League, this is their first, lets hope it shows

Hope you utterly annihilate Crawley, hate their manager, a classless of the highest order

[♔hammeredalways♔]

with Di Canio, the Daggers and Southend in Div2, thought I would take a look and of course with you supporting Vale had to keep an eye out he seems to be your one to watch (also heard he will lead the revolution on TWC)

looking forward to Derby as well, last time we went there was a 5 nil win

[Derbiean]

with Di Canio, the Daggers and Southend in Div2, thought I would take a look and of course with you supporting Vale had to keep an eye out he seems to be your one to watch (also heard he will lead the revolution on TWC)

looking forward to Derby as well, last time we went there was a 5 nil win

I wouldn't look too forward to it we ain't the same team we were in that abortion of a season

[♔hammeredalways♔]

ha ha neither are we, we had an awful line up that day so could not believe it, it was also special for the fact that my youngest daughter who I had forced a season ticket on for a number of years saw her first Hammers away League victory that day

seem to remember a win the previous time as well, much better memories than the old sandpit you used to play in

[♔hammeredalways♔]

I meant to add as well you might want to hide that badge in the signature you have

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we have at least one Cardiff fan who frequents here and we all know that they are partial to a nice bit of Lamb, and don't think mint sauce or gravy, could get very messy

[Derbiean]

Cardiff fans shag sheep not eat them

[Erebus Pasha]

Pot calling kettle black!

[Derbiean]

Pot calling kettle black!

Well ya know its true