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    Tiro
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    Default Re: Byzantine battle standard?

    Quote Originally Posted by recentiy03 View Post
    Part I ends when most of the boyars defect and he abdicates the throne but then the people raise him back to Tsar and I guess he'll end up going east...except first he probably needs to reclaim the land that defected in the west.
    Exactly.
    In the west there was defeat in Livonian war.

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    YuriVII's Avatar Primicerius
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    @OP Slightly unrelated note, but there are many symbols that Muscovy and the Rus' adopted from Byzantium. Using the icons as battle standards is one of them. The other can be seen in the coat of arms of the Russian Federation (the same as traditional Tsarist coat of arms).. I am sure you are familiar with the Double-Headed Eagle. This was originally Byzantium's coat of arms. When Byzantium fell to the Turks, some monk (I forget his name but he was important) made a quote that the first Rome was Rome, the second was Constantinople, and the third is Moscow. There will not be another. This is the mentality of our coat of arms...also it has two heads one looking East and the other looking West. I find the symbology very interesting considering our history ever since.

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    Indeed. After the fall of the Byzantine Empire, Muscovy, and later Russia undertook the role of the protector of the Orthodox Christianity and hence was thought as successor to the Byzantine Empire.
    Under the patronage of Emperor Maximinus Thrax
    "Steps to be taken in case Russia should be forced out of war considered. Various movements [of ] troops to and from different fronts necessary to meeting possible contingencies discussed. Conference also weighed political, economic, and moral effect both upon Central and Allied powers under most unfavorable aspect from Allied point of view. General conclusions reached were necessity for adoption of purely defensive attitude on all secondary fronts and withdrawing surplus troops for duty on western front. By thus strengthening western front [those attending] believed Allies could hold until American forces arrive in numbers sufficient to gain ascendancy."
    ~General Pershing, report to Washington, 26 July 1917

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