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    Sphendonetai Rhodioi and Toxotai Kretikoi should'nt they be also added to the greek faction?
    Graeci_Hoplitai_Lakonikoi/Ekdromoi_Hoplitai_Lakonikoi I added this under: soldier Graeci_Hoplitai_Lakonikoi, 60, 0, 1.36, 0.22
    officer Graeci_Hoplitai_Spartiatai because of the transverse crest which was primarily worn by officers.
    Could you replace the head of the Hoplitai_Spartiatai to that of the Graeci_Hoplitai_Lakonikoi. Then make an officer like the Graeci_Hoplitai_Spartiatai.
    I have also noticed that the Psiloi_Toxotai/Psiloi_Akontistai/Psiloi_Sphendonetai all wear the same color chiton. Also make some wear a doric/lonic or a chitoniskos chiton.
    Hats could be the Pilos/petasos.
    Xystophoroi_Tarantinoi were listed with the following defence stat_pri_armour 10, 0, 2, metal should,nt that be 10, 04, 04?

    This is what i have found so far

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    Rhodian slingers and cretian archers are only available to recruit for syracuse, and only from their naval facilities, not their barracks (as being mercenaries from overseas).

    The Psiloi have been for now taken out of the game (except for the slingers, temporarily). They were not part of the regular Greek armies during the Classical Period. Same with the Xystophoroi. However they may be available in custom battles, I forget.


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    Ok i found some more things: Tarentum has a culture glitch 80% Helenic 100% Oscan. Promising Generals and recruitable generals have horrible starting stats some with no stats at all. General Calvary bodyguards Hetairos heavy companions have a +2 to shield stat but no shield is shown in unit pic. City Hercaclea has small market X2, one i can select and buy the other is greyed out. When i buy the small market and it is finished being built the greyed small market still stays there.
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    What recruitable generals?


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    At the end of each turn there is a chance of hiring generals those are the ones i am talking about. As well as the ones you get for Heroic victories.

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    First of all, what do you mean by "horrible stats"?

    Secondly, do you mean "Man of the Hour", and "Adopted" Generals?


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    Yes Man of the hour and adopted generals i have been getting them with no points in command/virtue/authority or patriotism at the worst at the best maybe 3-4 in authority and 2-3 in patriotism. Heraclea has the same problem with Large stone walls upgrade there are two of them one selectable and the other greyed out.

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    I don't believe there are serious problems with stats for new generals. If you're getting some of them having even 3-4 command, that's a whopping lot for a beginning general.

    EDIT: Yeah caught the Heraclea/Tarentum bugs, will be fixed in a future patch.


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    Ok after playing several battles now I stopped using the Psiloi_Toxotai and peltasts because their range and javelin throwing animation are too slow. so now i just use hoplites and cavalry.

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    Once again, the Psiloi are not meant to be used at all. Perhaps I'll disable them from custom battles in the next patch. The Peltasts are meant to be used however, so report some feedback on them please, more detailed than just them being "slow". They have vanilla Javelin animations, no one complained about javelin units in vanilla, or javelin units in TATW.


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    There is a 5-6 second delay from when an enemy gets in range till when they loose their first javelins. Which means when they are in skirmish mode they may get to throw one volley then start to run away. currently I place my peltasts behind my hoplites with guard mode on and fire at will off. Also why cant peltasts chase down heavy hoplites? all light troops should get a movement bonus. like this move_speed_mod 1.5 medium troops 1.25 heavy as is
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    Sig Could you tell me how to change the Greek Heavy Hoplites to have more than just the same soldier in their unit. I want to include the other 7 hoplites and rename the unit Greek mercenary Hoplites. The recruitment cost would be double but the monthly pay would be half that of the citizen hoplites.

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    Leonidas, any comments on the Greek changes in the new patch? And on the new Peltasts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas480bc View Post
    spartan distance is shorter so they could recharge the hoplites who ran away to reform where as the hopitites were to close to charge themselves.
    Can you reword this? It's not entirely clear what you're trying to say.


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