Battle for Middle Earth 2

**The spartan** · July 27, 2005, 05:35 PM

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Very interesting....i hope it is better than the original!

**Erik** · July 27, 2005, 05:47 PM

I never played "the original"
Was it bad?

**Centurion Quintus** · July 27, 2005, 05:53 PM

The origional was a tremendous disappointment. The scale, graphics, and gameplay were dull. Like the red-headed step child of WarCraft. I hope they improve it with the latest version.

**Slaxx Hatmen** · July 27, 2005, 06:01 PM

I hardly doubt they will. The last one was sooo bad. Maybe if they just use a more TW style of game it would be abit more enjoyible. I'll wait till the first screenshots to pass my jugement, and even then i'd have my doubts.(see the orginal BFME for what i mean.)

**Lord Tomyris** · July 28, 2005, 05:41 AM

It has come too late for me...I have grown out of fantasy now.

**Ardeur** · July 28, 2005, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Lord Tomyris

It has come too late for me...I have grown out of fantasy now.

Agreed. I may pick this one up a year after its release, when its gone down to the $4 bargain bin... strictly for nostalgic purposes.

The first Battle for Middle Earth was interesting, and could have been great. But it was hounded by balance issues and problems related to the fact that the different "factions" were just the same units and buildings with a different skin.

**Virgil** · July 28, 2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Centurion Quintus

The origional was a tremendous disappointment. The scale, graphics, and gameplay were dull. Like the red-headed step child of WarCraft. I hope they improve it with the latest version.

I have to agree. The first screenies of it promise RTW in middle earth. Then, when the original game came out, the graphics were atrocious, the scale was tiny, the game speed was soo slow and there was no variety, and to top it all off, I got a game disk with a critical missing file!!!WOOOOO!!! In the last three computer games I've gotten, I have had problems installing them. Missing files, corrupted files etc. Is it really too much to ask after paying $50 to get a working game? But I digress. Based on what the description said, its going to be an expansion pack called a sequel. I'm not going to hold my breath on this one unless them implement some serious changes...

**Slaxx Hatmen** · July 28, 2005, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by 1hHoplite

I have to agree. The first screenies of it promise RTW in middle earth. Then, when the original game came out, the graphics were atrocious, the scale was tiny, the game speed was soo slow and there was no variety, and to top it all off, I got a game disk with a critical missing file!!!WOOOOO!!! In the last three computer games I've gotten, I have had problems installing them. Missing files, corrupted files etc. Is it really too much to ask after paying $50 to get a working game? But I digress. Based on what the description said, its going to be an expansion pack called a sequel. I'm not going to hold my breath on this one unless them implement some serious changes...

Amen to that!

**Kanaric** · July 28, 2005, 04:28 PM

I remember all those kiddies that were saying that RTW was going to suck and this game was going to sink it. ROFL to that.

**{nF}remix** · July 28, 2005, 04:32 PM

Thats 1 lonely troll...

**Lord Tomyris** · July 28, 2005, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kanaric

I remember all those kiddies that were saying that RTW was going to suck and this game was going to sink it. ROFL to that.

Ahh I remember being shipped out to the enemy forums to argue RTW's case against BFME. Those were fun days, before a double dose of disappointment. *evil grin*

**ShangTang** · July 28, 2005, 06:18 PM

Heh, what a joke.

**Jopo** · July 28, 2005, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Tomyris

It has come too late for me...I have grown out of fantasy now.

All you need is the next great fantasy game to suck you right back in. Even realism done poorly can make you yearn for alternatives. BFME was not so good and I don't think I want to buy the next one.

Jopo

**Chilly5** · July 28, 2005, 06:36 PM

II is a bad name, I mean, the first one was really bad. It was so slow, I thought some aspects would be better than RTW, but it just seemed so boring, the videos and pics used to trick me out so much too. But II is a bad name, it souds like a sequal rather than an expansion (is it a sequal?). From the sounds of it, they are just doing what many BFME mods have already done, at middle earth center (the BFME version of TWC) they have some really big mods out there, that gave us elves, dwarves, handrians, corsairs etc, this "expansion" doesnt seem any better.

Thats 1 lonely troll...

Actually, if you look closely, he is not alone, he has a goblin whipping him in the back, and a archer shooting at nothing in the front. Though, i wonder how a troll can fit on such a boat....And I hope this means that II will have a naval war fare system.

**Colt45** · July 28, 2005, 09:08 PM

BFME reminds me of the Blair Witch movie hype. They lead you on that its the real deal and you must have/watch it. Then when you do, you are ****** off for the sham they put over us all.

BFMEs claim was that all games show promotional videos showing off features that dont make it into release because of lack of time. However, in BFMEs case, just about all the features that made the game sell never actually made it into the game. Basically, the marketing team pulled a con on us.

Im not going to go into detail about what was taken out, but some of the biggest features were: RTW type campaign map, epic battles (biggest joke of the game, "battalions" could reach up to ten men), and diverse strategies (hard to implement when you can only build about 4 or 5 fighting units per race).

Anything I buy from EA will always be in the bargain bin from now on because I have lost complete faith in their credibility.

**The spartan** · July 29, 2005, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Kanaric

I remember all those kiddies that were saying that RTW was going to suck and this game was going to sink it. ROFL to that.

It's kind of ironic really. I used to be on a B4ME forum before this one, i heard some guys saying something about a game called Rome:Total War. I looked into it and never turned back

. But i agree, those guys got what was coming

**The True Roman** · July 30, 2005, 09:19 PM

new BFME huh. WHo cares. I have the frist one i have to say the only good parts were when you were fighting with the fellowship. Thats when the game felt like the movie. (i dont think they could do those segments with the Rome engin could they?) The rest was the standerd RTS i was hopping for a RTW typ game but once i saw it in action i saw that wasn't the case. I dont get it when they show those big cutsence they always show thousands of troops but when they go to gameplay the most you ever see is a hundred.

**Colt45** · July 31, 2005, 01:06 PM

Helms deep is the best example of how sparse the units are in the game. When I play as Isengard and attack helms deep, HD looks dam near empty on the walls because of lack of pop cap. You can take saruman and his fireball and just wipe out the map on your own.