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    Brilliant! I will be playing it.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Quote Originally Posted by ninja51 View Post
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Outstanding...I just wish the mod was ready already!

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    Excellent as always..!

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    awesome guys!!
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    Terrific preview! Keep up the fine work guys!
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Thanks for the preview, great research!

    One thing, though,
    I have to agree with the complaints about their facial appearance - they look more like huns imo.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Thanks for the preview, great research!

    One thing, though,
    I have to agree with the complaints about their facial appearance - they look more like huns imo.
    I do not agree, check the close-ups below.
    Those are North-European faces.
    If the faces where more Hun-like they would look more Turkish or even Asiatic.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheTank View Post
    "This preview is amazing and must have taken a lot of time to research, the weapons and shields look so authentic and that Hjortsring boat is absolutely fantastic. I didn't know that the early Germanic people had such boat building skills. Wonder if the oarsmen ever hung their shields at the side like the Vikings did for protection whilst sailing down river systems. The only reservation I have is the models themselves, as I don't think they look very germanic in appearance. The square set facial features, olive brown skin and fair hair aren't very evident and they look more Celtic to me. However this is a truly excellent preview and worthy of great praise."

    Most Germanic warriors in the Sweboz units have blond hair and the faces are based on photographs of Northern Europeans. Its a common stereotype that all Germanics where blond and we try to avoid that with the inclusion of redhaired and brown haired warriors.

    Below some close-ups of Sweboz faces.












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    love them

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Quote Originally Posted by caratacus View Post
    Very good textures indeed .Yes, I can see now , just that their hair is dirty and swept back, as it would have been, also the facial shape looks right. However it would also be wrong to base their appearance on modern Northern Europeans also, as there has been a lot of ethnic mixing over the centuries and I doubt that the majority of modern Germans would look typically like the people of the Sweboz. Roman accounts tell us that the germanic people were distinctive enough in their appearance to be considered as a different ethnic group being characteristically tall and fair haired. But such characteristics are also given referring to Celtic tribes also, so it would also be fair to say that the terms Germanic and Celtic shouldn't be entirely consider to relate to ethnicity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dansk viking View Post
    One thing, though,
    I have to agree with the complaints about their facial appearance - they look more like huns imo.

    People need to stop thinking of Germanic people as all being the blonde haired, blue eyed stereotype that is commonly portrayed in films. Then, like now they came in a wide variety of appearances, the huge amount of bog bodies found throughout the region testify to this.

    Also people always tend to overstate the effects of population mixing, most genetic studies carried out so far have shown that population genetics in Europe have stayed surprisingly stable since the Neolithic.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    very amazing demonstration of modwork !!

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    To think, this is the kind of stuff CA threw under the bus in the name of little 5-unit DLC packs. CA would do themselves and their TW franchise a world of good if they hired the EB team to put the polish on their games.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    O,o WOW!







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    Epic, you never cease to amaze me EB team!
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Finnished reading all your information now. europa barbarorum and his members put my eyes on stuff i never know. For an history freak as me is this drugs, all your previeuws are an true history book. Its truly amazing. Sutch interesting.... Btw did you wrote that all by yourself? That must be a lot of work.. Its good writing love it.

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    People need to stop thinking of Germanic people as all being the blonde haired, blue eyed stereotype that is commonly portrayed in films. Then, like now they came in a wide variety of appearances, the huge amount of bog bodies found throughout the region testify to this.

    Also people always tend to overstate the effects of population mixing, most genetic studies carried out so far have shown that population genetics in Europe have stayed surprisingly stable since the Neolithic.
    Well the term Germanic is really quite misleading anyway and was first used by the Romans (Germani), to refer to a group of peoples separate from the Celts.There were references to warriors being tall and fair haired but this shouldn't be taken as representing a recognisable trait of the Germani anymore than it is today of modern Germans. As you correctly say, modern genetic science is just beginning to piece together what is a very complex history and not at all the simplified classification that previously historians assumed in ascribing cultural differences. However it is known that there was a migration of peoples from Scandinavia into Europe and these people are often attributed the origin of all the people we refer to as Germanics, which I doubt very much as this would assume widespread population displacement as well.. However it would be fair to assume that the Suebi tribe that this preview relates, would have considerably less similarity in appearance to Scandinavians than the tribes bordering the Baltic sea and would have been more closer to the Alpine peoples of central Europe, so your faces are very correct . It was just that my first impression from looking at the preview, was that they didn't look very Scandinavian looking at all and the middle one even looked almost Middle Eastern. But the picture showing the faces in more detail does indeed show a curious assemblage of shifty looking Bavarians.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    The best part of this preview is in the title: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview 1. Another one is coming!

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Just awesome !
    it's not ony well done, it's also as accurate it can be.
    Takes time, its definitely worth waiting...

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum 2: Sweboz preview I

    Unbelievable awesome preview! Possibly the best I ever saw! Thanks!

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    Awesome work!

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