Gothic formation = Running phalanx

[DEMETRIOUS II]

Hi Dimebag,

If you have BI you will notice that the gothic default spear formation closely resembles a phalanx formation. The kick is that they also run which I think would be beneficial to your mod if you added such formation to the Greek cultures. Just a though, let me know your opinion.

Cheers!

[Zarax]

Shield wall has been added to some units but you cannot really replace phalanx with it...

[DimeBagHo]

The gothic spearmen use short_pike, and shiltrom. It's the short_pike bit that makes them look like a phalanx. I tried this out in earlier versions for hoplite units, but I never really liked the effect much, because the front ranks switch to secondary weapons almost immediately.

I'm pretty happy with the over-hand/spear-wall combination that the hoplites have now, although as Zarax said its not a perfect substitute for a good hoplite phalanx formation.

[DEMETRIOUS II]

FYI - The hoplites did use swords in battle. Doesn't the Gothic formation stay close together longer than shield wall with overhand animation? I rather see the hoplites keep formation and use swords rather than spread out and fight all over the place overhand. Also I don't think that the AI uses the shield wall do they?

Anyways just an opinion, I am sure I can't sway you at this point.

Cheers.

[DimeBagHo]

Anyways just an opinion, I am sure I can't sway you at this point.

Probably not. But if you want to make this change yourself, let me know and I will provide instructions.

I haven't seen the AI use shield wall. Does anyone know if the AI in the Barbarian Invasion campaign uses it?

[legioary first cohort]

No i dont think the AI use it on bi sadly

[Zarax]

I've seen AI form shield wall on occasions, try having some cavalry units near the shield wall able units and sometimes they will form the wall to protect themselves from a frontal charge...

[DimeBagHo]

I have seen hoplites use it recently. I think part of the problem is that they leave shield wall formation when they attack, so unless you are watching carefully you won't even notice it half the time.