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  1. February 23, 2006, 06:50 AM #1
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    This past weekend I had the massive pleasure of submerging into the cold northern remote reaches of Finland.... in the Brussels Bozar Theater...

    I went to see the Belgian National Symphony Orchestra recite Sibelius (http://www.naxos.com/composer/sibelius.htm) and Mozart.

    The Mozart was so overshadowed by the complex, intellectul deep sounds of Sibelius that I foudn myself questioning what attracts us to certain sounds.

    I wanted to see if any civitates had input on this rather than posting it in the Thema Devia.

    Corrected after Wilpuri's Finnish spelling correction.
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  2. February 23, 2006, 06:57 AM #2
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    Just a little correction: It is Sibelius, not Sybelius.

    Although I am not a big fan of this kind of music, I admit I do like Sibelius. However, I know nothing about this stuff so I have no 'educated opinions' on him or anyone else for that matter.
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  3. February 23, 2006, 07:03 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri
    Just a little correction: It is Sibelius, not Sybelius.

    Although I am not a big fan of this kind of music, I admit I do like Sibelius. However, I know nothing about this stuff so I have no 'educated opinions' on him or anyone else for that matter.
    Interesting enough... do you find the long drawn-out dark sounds of Sibelius enjoyable? Or for what other reason (even if only Nationalistic) are you drawn to it
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  4. February 23, 2006, 07:27 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix
    Interesting enough... do you find the long drawn-out dark sounds of Sibelius enjoyable? Or for what other reason (even if only Nationalistic) are you drawn to it
    Well I guess it speaks to me because of its very 'Finnish' sound landscape. Also Sibelius' historical role of molding the Finnish national character into what it was and is. He is our national composer. Apart from his symphonies, the Finlandia hymn and the Jaegers March make for great listening to any Finnish patriot. :original:

    He also lived in Loviisa, where both of my parents hail from and I have a lot of family there. When you put Sibelius' work into a historical context, it speaks to me as a Finn greatly. Of course, he was also from a Swedish-speaking family like myself.
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    :wink:
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    Of course, he was also from a Swedish-speaking family like myself.
    Hmmm didn't know that about both of you Much more attainable than Finnish :wink: *proceeds to Barbarian Taverna*
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  6. February 23, 2006, 08:01 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix
    :wink:

    Hmmm didn't know that about both of you Much more attainable than Finnish :wink: *proceeds to Barbarian Taverna*
    Heh, well I am actually from a bilingual family, to be exact. My mother is a Swedish-speaker, and while my father is a Finnish-speaker (although he also speaks fluent Swedish).
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    I really like listening to Sibelius, in fact it was a concert playing Sibelius (I went with my dad and my sister on her birthday) that drew me into classical music. I'm Canadian, so there's no nationalist drive behind my enthusiasm

    His work is easier to get into than that of some other composers, and being of the Romantic Era it is inherently different from the stuff by Mozart (Classical) so it definitely feels more emotional and colourful, which can make it more enjoyable. Like wilpuri said, Sibelius' work often strikes up images of the landscape.

    I have his symphonies, his violin concerto, a couple of suites, and some solo piano works of his as well.
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