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    SirWarts's Avatar Supai
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    So I hear the AI is crap. Whats everyone's thoughts?If it is crap im not gonna buy unless they have some good mods come out. Wich CA seams to be making harder sense ETW.

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    For me CAI is a decent challenge, BAI is alright but as with every game could be better.




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    AI is good. Not perfect, but is improved.

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    It's the best vanilla release imo. With mods even better.

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    Yeah, the CAI is really good. The BAI is better than past games also.

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    Best AI in a TW game so far.
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    Take the words best and great with a grain of salt. Remember people are comparing them to PREVIOUS TW games.

    THE AI is tolerable, it plays well although there are debates about the bonuses and advantages it gets.

    There are bugs like not repairing ships and debates over diplomacy balance. CAI

    But compared to the past VANILLA AIs, CAI= better but agressive for the player, BAI= good enough but plays the same way most of the time, easily exploitable by player, especialy in seiges.

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    Rougeman's Avatar Kihei
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    the CAI is the best ive played against compared to past TW titles, and also the BAI

    though it could be better...

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    If you are the type of player then when you encounter a bug, you stop playing for a while due to frustration. I would wait to purchase for about a month, or whenever they end of giving us a SP patch.

    If you tolerance level is higher then that, I would reccomend to purchase the game as it is "playabe" and enjoyable, but gets repetitive.

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    BAI could use improvement but I think you'll be impressed with what it does - specifically targeting your general with archers, using the bridge and the shallow river crossing (even on Normal), running to high ground when ambushed, setting up ambushes during land battles, etc. The CAI has improved considerably, imo. No longer will you have to fight a war to the death for clans. As soon as the AI doesn't have an army anymore, it is willing to seek peace and even vassalage. The CAI really does try to maintain its existence (except for the Realm Divide. In which case, it becomes you vs everyone else.) Don't use any of the mods that take away the bonuses for the AI on the higher difficulty setting because it simply makes the game boring in the late game (like all other TWs).
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    Simply the best TW game AI. Past TW game (i don't play ETW/NTW) i always play VH/VH, and can with every battle with heroic victory easily. In m2tw, i never see gunpowder unit, i can win way before the gunpowder come out. In S2TW, i need to play more seriously, balance each decision, i can even LOSE against the AI

    The only major bug is in siege defense battle and AI never repair their ship.
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    - auto resolve give to much advantage to player
    - AI too easy take decision to assault fort. Need siege more often, wait until they have 2.5-3:1 superiority before assault
    - not aggressive enough pursuing trade node

    Also ignore player that say AI diplomacy broken, mostly it's just rant from losing player

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    Ah opinions, I simply stated diplomacy balance. Dont get me started on vassals and allies and having to shower them with money... and realm divide concept. Again, OP, take all posts as opinions inlcuding mine, is your money. Wait a month, then make you own choice.

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    The AI is good, but the battles are much faster then in previous games.

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    It's definitely improved. But you could make the argument that it's not as improved as people think.




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    SPARTAN VI's Avatar Sōkō yumi
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    Ditto, AI has improved in every way.

    Battle AI puts up a good fight. I've had a couple situations where I thought I was playing a drop-in human player only to find I had forgot to turn the feature back on. They position their troops intelligently and generally recognize that they can remain static when they're defending; the burden is on you to attack. They create some interesting problems for you in a defensive siege battle, but are brain dead when it's your turn to attack. Passive AI is still a problem and it's pretty much expected of TW.

    Campaign AI has improved. Diplomacy is now an option! No more "hey want to be my ally?" end turn "PORT BLOCKADED, WAR DECLARED!!!!!" I was also amazed that I managed to pick up SEVERAL vassals on my first campaign. AI armies unit assortment could use some work; in my campaigns, they seem to spam yari and bow ashigaru an awful lot. I'm also kinda put off by how poorly the AI garrisons many of its provinces. DarthMod fixed both of these issues.

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    I really have to wonder where you "heard" it was terrible.

    BAI has improved greatly in many ways; yes it keeps repeating the same tactics, but you may call that "consistent"
    I posted some analysis vids on my other channel (bit further down) if you're interested; it's from the demo, but it does't seem to me the AI was changed a lot since then.
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    So I hear the AI is crap. Whats everyone's thoughts?If it is crap im not gonna buy unless they have some good mods come out. Wich CA seams to be making harder sense ETW.
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