Deployable Defences?

[Ihre Ausführung]

I remember there were at least two mods for this in Napoleon that made deployable defences available in every battle.

Could someone please make a version for Shogun?

[Ihre Ausführung]

I have been trying to create this mod to enable the bamboo walls and deployable shields for every game but already I am having difficulties.

For Napoleon Total War the unit_abilities table inside the data.pack looked this this:

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Here as you can see there is a column named "Defensive Ability" which could be changed from true to false.

This would enable all the deployable defences to be used for any battle.

I found this information in this thread here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=353689

However inside the data.pack for Shogun Total War the table looks completely different.

Like this:

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As you can see they are different and do not even have the same number or type of columns.

Is it the same? Am I even looking in the right place?

Any help, thoughts or ideas would be really appreciated!

[W4lt3r]

They're in the game. But the problem is, only the field defender gets to put them up.
They're only active on the matchlock samurai / warrior monks and Bow warrior monks / samurai. ashigaru's cannot put up defenses nor can the hero unit.

Would be nice though if you could put them up regardless are you attacker or defender. As long as siege defender can't put them up. Matchlocks putting impenetrable bamboo wall next to the wall lines.. forcing the attacker to run around them and most likely getting shot to bits while doing so.

I think they're just triggered as active ability when one is attacked on the field by enemy army... I don't know much about modding this game so..
But if the field attacker gets to put up defenses. That might actually make some factions quite a lot stronger. One good example is Hattori. Start near a bottleneck, setup defenses in battle preparation phase. Laugh as enemy gets slaughtered.

[aion2006]

I'm bringing this thread back in the hope that someone with more experience look at this.

I've play around with some of the data.pack
unit_abilities
Unit_to_Unit_Junction
etc...

Setting some unknown to "True" to see if they did anything.
Unfortunately, nothing seem to work.
I've been trying to find a "floating_Mines" skill, it this skill deploy an object in the game.
Was hoping this work for "bamboo_wall" ugh. No luck ether.

I'm trying to fine out where the heck is the script where it check to make sure your unit is in the same place in 2 turn in order to deploy those defense to 0.

[Ihre Ausführung]

I tried again as well - still no luck.

I can't accept the notion that doing this isn't possible, I just don't know how!

[Ihre Ausführung]

Right...

I will personally offer an incentive of £20/$30 to anyone who can work this out and successfully create a mod which always allows deployment of matchlock/bow bamboo walls and shields in custom/campaign battles.

Payment will be via Paypal.

Good luck!

[Ronano]

dude, I'm pretty sure I have found where they can be modified, but I can't access it

[Ihre Ausführung]

dude, I'm pretty sure I have found where they can be modified, but I can't access it

Really, how? And why can't you access it?

[Ronano]

It IS in the data.pack file, but when I try to access the files where it would most likely be (in the pack file editor) an error message comes up and won't let me access it....

[Ihre Ausführung]

Are you using the most recent version of the PFM? If your having trouble opening any tables try this one, its the most up to date and supports the latest patch: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3249.

Also what tables are you trying to view?

[Ronano]

Okay, well, there's a couple of things.
Drop down the 'db' menu,

In unit_to_unit_junctions_tables, on the Bow Samurai, there are things called pavisse_deployable.
I searched pavisse (it's actually pavise...) and they are shields like the ones in question

Also, in unit_abilities_tables, open the unit_tables table and there is a list of abilities, and bamboo_wall is there, with the option to change False to True.
I'm no pro with this, but Im sure its somewhere in that area.

I'm not sure, but I think I'm close....

[Ihre Ausführung]

Okay, well, there's a couple of things.
Drop down the 'db' menu,

In unit_to_unit_junctions_tables, on the Bow Samurai, there are things called pavisse_deployable.
I searched pavisse (it's actually pavise...) and they are shields like the ones in question

Also, in unit_abilities_tables, open the unit_tables table and there is a list of abilities, and bamboo_wall is there, with the option to change False to True.
I'm no pro with this, but Im sure its somewhere in that area.

I'm not sure, but I think I'm close....

I have made mods with all the variations of true and false but they didn't change a thing.

There must be something else but I just can't find it!

[Shimazu1221]

Guys how to put bamboo wall i have 4 units of samurai matchlock help pls.~ or mod something will always use their ability to used screen for archers or matchlock for bamboo wall!

[Bad213Boy]

any chance to change the requirements for deployable walls? You should be able to add them during attacking tool. You could do it in the demo, why can't you do it now? All archers should have this available. Is there a mod like this?

[AUG351]

So is this possible though for only bow and matchlock units sense the deployable bamboo is for only bow and matchlock?