Yari diversity - screenshots included

[matmohair1]

" YARI - DIVERSITY - MOD "

just a simple mod that replaces yari spears only.
Ashigaru now carry normal yari while the cross bladed variety are reserved for cavalry, elite units & veterans.

they are also given to yari cavalry to differentiate them from light cavalry.

this mod doesn't force ashigaru to hold on to their spears for ever.
this is due to historical facts and the impracticality of using spears for longer periods in close combat.
they always resorted to use their wakizashi in the end.

Note that I haven't changed the weapons carried by officers as that would lead to a ctd.

probably incompatible with DarthMod

You are all free to use, edit this mode as you wished and incorporate it with other mods
feel free to try anything you fancy

should work fine with most mods that don't edit the units_stats_land tables
- just unpack, copy to Data file

credits

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matmohair1- this is my 1st ever modding experience
I would also like to thank all those who helped me through their advise and encouragements
especially Demokritos

Units using straight bladed Yari



Yari Ashigaru

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Units using cross bladed yari


Great Guard

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yari cavalry

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Yari Hero

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Yari Ronin

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inspiration

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how about giving all samurai (including cavalry) and ashigaru units different varieties of yari blades

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Yari diversity

[Ii Naomasa]

Yeh I think this would be good. I don't understand why mods are chaning it so everyone has the same Yari

[BullGod]

It would be nice, but I don't think this can be done.
Whole unit must use one equipment theme with exception of officer and standard bearer. There is also a musician slot in unit tables, but i'm not sure if Shogun2 engine uses it.

[matmohair1]

the units are already diverse in armor and helmets - cant the tips of spears be varied as well ?

* samurai were given straight blades while ashigaru were given cross blades
* so far there are 2 types of spears

strangely the unit cards seem to show the opposite



- can both blade types be at least, equally distributed among all samurai and ashigaru units ?

some mods managed to add a few new items, such as Noh Oni masks to ninja captains
while other mods gave ashigaru straight bladed yari

- so implementing these changes might still be possible

[BullGod]

Well, as I said whole unit must have one type of weapon (or two, like yari and katana, but still every member of the unit must have the same weapon set), and I can think of no way of implementing diversity here. Sadly it doesn't work like unit armour variants.

Unit captain is treated as separate battle personality and he can have totally different armour, or weapon set than rest of his men.

[Black Fox]

The drummer slot still works, I added standard_bearer to it to give units extra banners.

[Demokritos]

The drummer slot still works, I added standard_bearer to it to give units extra banners.

Care to show how it looks in game? How did you do it?

[Black Fox]

Care to show how it looks in game? How did you do it?

I used the PFM and edited unit_stats_land in the db, I'l post a screen shot in a minute.

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[Black Fox]

Also if you have a higher number of men Ashigaru will carry the banners.

[Demokritos]

^^ That looks really nice. I shall try this idea. And I have the campaign_unit_multiplier set to 1.25, and there's always an ashigaru carrying the banner. Didn't know samurais could do it. Thanks for this tip.

[matmohair1]

how about a replacement

- ashigaru units carry straight blades while their captains carry cross blades
- samurai cavalry, heroes and guards should carry cross blades
- light cavalry can still carry straight bladed yari

[matmohair1]

how abut this :

Units to use straight bladed Yari, (captains can be given cross bladed ones)

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Light Cavalry

Yari Samurai

Yari Ashigaru

Units to use cross bladed yari

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Great Guard

yari cavalry

Yari Hero

Yari Ronin

[matmohair1]

Interesting tale considering the inspiration behind the development of cross, crescent & trident bladed Yari

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[matmohair1]

Ive tried applying the changes as mentioned in this tutorial - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=446046

it worked fine until patch 5 - I wasnt able to repeat the same changes on the patch5pack

[Demokritos]

That's the way to do it, matmohair1, if you want a change in the game badly enough, you get into the modding business yourself. You'll work it out with that patch5 soon enough.

Listen, on a completely different note, you always seem able to produce interesting pictures of characters or warriors from the Sengoku period. Do you have some tips to find more of those?

[matmohair1]

That's the way to do it, matmohair1, if you want a change in the game badly enough, you get into the modding business yourself. You'll work it out with that patch5 soon enough.

Listen, on a completely different note, you always seem able to produce interesting pictures of characters or warriors from the Sengoku period. Do you have some tips to find more of those?

I will try although I have no modding or programing skills

regarding pictures - I am glad to help

[matmohair1]

I am a beginner in modding, can someone please give me any advice on how to start

[Demokritos]

That depends on what you wanna do. Start here for collecting info: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1552.

[matmohair1]

just thinking about a simple mod that can incorporate the following changes

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Units to use straight bladed Yari - "shogun_infantry_yari"

Yari Ashigaru

Units to use cross bladed yari - "shogun_long_yari"


Great Guard

yari cavalry

Yari Hero

Yari Ronin

[Demokritos]

Well, in that case, the first thing you want to do is to find out what kind of weapons are available in the game. Seems like this is given in the warscape_equipment_items or warscape_equipment_themes tables which you can see at least in the patch.pack when you open this pack with the PFM. I'm not sure, but there may be only two types of yaris there. Then which type of unit gets what weapon is probably assigned in a db file called unit_stats_land, in the column named "Warscape Equipment Theme IDRef". You would need the PFM to create a mod and edit those assignents.

If the game doesn't already have all those variants you want, I'm not sure to what extent one can design new weapons and make the game understand to use those instead of the others.


Edit: just found this for you: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=440186.