The RoP Chat Thread

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

Ooh, new model? Nice

[the persian Immortal]

None; we're improving the existing factions
Besides, if we'd want to add new factions, we'd have to remove existing ones, because we've hit the limit.

is there a limit ? I didn't know .
BUT the original RTW, BI and some other mods have lot's of factions.
ROP could have some more, IF there was more historically which rez will take care of. right ?

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but in V3 I will understand IF you guys focus on the Problems of V2 and after fixing them move to add new stuff .

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

BUT the original RTW, BI and some other mods have lot's of factions.

I have a job for you.
Count the amount of factions in a mod like, say, INVASIO BABARORVM or Roma Surrectum, and then count the amount of factions in RoP.

We have just as many factions as any other mods, even if it doesn't seem so
We simply can't add more.

[the persian Immortal]

I have a job for you.
Count the amount of factions in a mod like, say, INVASIO BABARORVM or Roma Surrectum, and then count the amount of factions in RoP.

We have just as many factions as any other mods, even if it doesn't seem so
We simply can't add more.

right you have many factions but it's very hard to see.
you got 6 greek factions , 4 barbarian factions , 2 egypten factions , 3 Iranian factions and 3 estern faction.
18 factions.

BTW : is there possible to make a horde faction like the vandals and the huns in BI ?

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

+1 Indian faction + 1 rebel faction = 20 = limit

on hordes: not unless we convert to BI.exe (which is a big "no no" in our policy, I think).

[kdub22]

Good. Those hordes always kinda pissed me off.

[the persian Immortal]

+1 Indian faction + 1 rebel faction = 20 = limit

on hordes: not unless we convert to BI.exe (which is a big "no no" in our policy, I think).

whops ! haha sorry I forgot about the indians.

the reason that the factions in this mod seem so few can be :
1. the are far awys from each other mostly and in your time frame many factions haven't rised so there is many many rebel provinsess between them.

2. most of the factions aren't playable in v2 so when you check the costum battles you don't see many factions.

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is there possible to creat moddle for generals like lotr total war , and alex total war ?
for exampel for cyrus the great ?

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

Meh, that's not the point any way. The point is that we won't be adding any new factions.
Trust me, with the new AOR we have, you don't want new factions

[the persian Immortal]

Meh, that's not the point any way. The point is that we won't be adding any new factions.
Trust me, with the new AOR we have, you don't want new factions

BTW: I was wondering what AOR is it like the merceneries ?

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

Well, just like in V2, you can recruit AOR units in settlements and you can hire some as mercenaries.

[the persian Immortal]

Well, just like in V2, you can recruit AOR units in settlements and you can hire some as mercenaries.

oh now I get it so you wanna add the AOR so the players can recruit native units instead of recruiting the units from the last faction.

for exampel: that will be awesome, so you mean that when you conquer susa you can recruit elemit units instead of babylonians right ?

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

You can recruit Elamite units, but I'm not going to say anything about the recruitment of units of other factions: that's for the next preview

[the persian Immortal]

good than I will wait for the next preview

[ithinkitsdead]

Whats this I have heard about a flaw with the 4TPY script?
Any details about that? Maybe a way to fix/replace the script?

Just a bit of info would be nice, thank ya very much.

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

That flaw was already fixed in patch 2.22

[ithinkitsdead]

Awesome! That puts me in a great mood.

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

On scripts, btw: I'm not that fond of using scripts in this mod, so I'm not going to use them unless necessary (our extra campaign, for example, will use a lot less than say, ChivTW FCRC, which was pretty small already). Vanilla-ish gameplay with better balanced battles above anything else, imo.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

old-topic: I am worried about that hoplite v sparabara stats, because I don't feel it's realistic that 60 unarmoured, rather improperly trained hoplites can defeat 160 troops of the same quality in skill when surrounded even if their shields and spears are larger, heavier and better suited for a frontal enagement.

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

Dev forum:

Also I need to start a thread here about the Greeks. There's a lot of stuff being said on the RoP forums about how average they were and frankly its . Hoplites ought to chew through sparabara but it should take time. We need to make sure the hoplites aren't nerfed too much because the truth is they were damned hard. What you said about the armour is a good point as well, we've got a lot of muscle cuirasses because we're starting at a date where they were still in use but we should also represent the poorer hoplites.

All there is to it.
Also, note that the hoplites aren't wtfpwning the Sparabara. They are taking quite the casualties and have "shaken" status at the end of the engagement.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Also, note that the hoplites aren't wtfpwning the Sparabara. They are taking quite the casualties and have "shaken" status at the end of the engagement.

Hmm, you say takabara + sparabara beat them? Why is it then?