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    BunnyPoopCereal's Avatar Kei kihei
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    Default Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    We have a new rule where anyone who uses Alt+F4 in a battle is going to be kicked out of the group.

    But we need proof, and video seems to be the only hard proof that we can use, so how can you help us?

    Give us the video in you tube so we can review it.

    You can send the links to me here in my TWC profile. Thanks

    What is alt+f4? When you Alt+F4, it ends the game without incurring a win, loss, or any experience adjustments for either player.
    Last edited by BunnyPoopCereal; April 08, 2011 at 11:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    the rule should not apply if one player is using siege weapons. alt f4 is an exploit just like fire rockets are an exploit.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    can you please elaborate more?

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    I support alt F4ing any game where your general gets one shotted by siege.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by da_bradler View Post
    I support alt F4ing any game where your general gets one shotted by siege.
    then dont alt f4 and use siege weapons yourself.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    I'd rather have honor

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    The thing is...if a person alt-f4, there's no chance at the moment to get a save replays due to no victory screen, and the button at the result screen doesn't work. So unless someone recording a live match for every match they play, it's hard to get any video.

    @da_bradler...that's personal ^^; and is no way relate to exploit or cheating

    Edit: I rage at CA for the dumb failure of putting in a button that has no proper function
    Last edited by VersionLangley; April 08, 2011 at 11:40 PM.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    You cannot save a replay if the opponent alt+f4's. Additionally you can't expect people to be taping every game, so the conditions are unreasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by da_bradler View Post
    the rule should not apply if one player is using siege weapons. alt f4 is an exploit just like fire rockets are an exploit.
    Something tells me you are going to be one of the first on the list.

    While I disagree with your reasoning, that is unimportant. What is important is that once we start including exceptions, things get very complicated and there will be blurry lines and complaints regarding those who alt+f4 and justification for it. The best and simplest solution is to simply bar any form of alt+f4ing, regardless of the reason. The moment you pull the plug to prematurely end the game, you are exploiting, and should removed from the guild, and any guild with any sense shouldn't accept you.
    Last edited by Knowing Crow; April 08, 2011 at 11:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Oh that's unfortunate... There really is no other hard proof that we can use. Maybe if some is using fraps or something then we could use that.
    Last edited by BunnyPoopCereal; April 08, 2011 at 11:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    gonna be hard to prove alt f4 through a screenie
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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    I can make a screenshot of anyone dropping within 10 minutes, or 5 with a Photoshop preset layers and known STEAM name. Problem is - replays cannot be played when one player drops so it is hard to prove. I know a lot of people with very partial solution - they are streamers for various portals. like SC2TV, own3d, etc. but not all can stream and record their games. Witch leaves only FRAPS.
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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Messaged. Obviously I don't have proof since I don't make a habit of carefully documenting every single game I play just in the off chance that I can finally do something about someone alt-f4ing, but this instance is particularly egregious as the member I was dropped by is extremely highly ranked. That doesn't shine well on the TWC clan!

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Ironblood View Post
    Messaged. Obviously I don't have proof since I don't make a habit of carefully documenting every single game I play just in the off chance that I can finally do something about someone alt-f4ing, but this instance is particularly egregious as the member I was dropped by is extremely highly ranked. That doesn't shine well on the TWC clan!
    If you dont have proof, its simply slander.
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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedophillip View Post
    I can make a screenshot of anyone dropping within 10 minutes, or 5 with a Photoshop preset layers and known STEAM name. Problem is - replays cannot be played when one player drops so it is hard to prove. I know a lot of people with very partial solution - they are streamers for various portals. like SC2TV, own3d, etc. but not all can stream and record their games. Witch leaves only FRAPS.
    Well, if you can capture the screnshot that shows the blue line with the person dropping, with the minimap (showing units) and battle strength (which is usually a good indication of a person leaving the battle), its better than nothing. Even better if you have all the dead bodies below.

    I don't know much about photoshop, though. I suppose there's probably a way around that?
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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by Foultrajik View Post
    If you dont have proof, its simply slander.
    Slander is malicious, false, and defamatory. I have no reason to go out of my way to register on these forums just to make something up about a TWC member. I explained what happened to BunnyPoopCereal, and I'll be sure, in the future, if I ever have the good fortune to play against that member again, to document the battle. The person in question played a great game, one of my most memorable probably, so I was extremely shocked to see that when the last of their units routed the message "the host has left the game" popped up.

    I gave them a piece of my mind over steam after the game, but of course I didn't get a response.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    creative assembly wouldn't have made the game with alt f4 if they didn't intend people to use it... just like siege weapons.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by da_bradler View Post
    creative assembly wouldn't have made the game with alt f4 if they didn't intend people to use it... just like siege weapons.
    CA didn't invent a windows command to close the currently open program.

    Comparing Alt+F4 to siege weapons is just ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Well this was likely to happen eventually, however, you should probably take into consideration the fact that theres been rumbling that the concede defeat button some times bugs out and doesn't provide the win. (i've tested it with a friend and it happened on our 5th attempt. I can't seem to spot a pattern to the bug tho to duplicate it)

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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find Alt+F4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by naro View Post
    Well this was likely to happen eventually, however, you should probably take into consideration the fact that theres been rumbling that the concede defeat button some times bugs out and doesn't provide the win. (i've tested it with a friend and it happened on our 5th attempt. I can't seem to spot a pattern to the bug tho to duplicate it)
    Funny stuff right there. I just conceded defeat to some lvl 10 player who won a fairly close victory... and I got the win. Thats not right at all. I guess I should have played it to its conclusion... that always gives the right player the win... or seemingly so. Sorry [ussr]russia_dean something or other.
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    Default Re: Community Help the TWC clan find alt + 4 users

    Quote Originally Posted by da_bradler View Post
    I support alt F4ing any game where your general gets one shotted by siege.
    You spare alot of time by just clicking ESC and then surrender/Forfeit/Concede battle or what it says.
    While at the same time not being a faggot that is.

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