[Preview] The Roman Empire-Part I-Thematic Armies.

[AnthoniusII]

Roman Empire will have 80% of Anatolia with comon frontiers with rebel Armenian provinces in the east and comon frontier with Saracens in the south .
Also the empire will have one city in Sicily and some in south Italy .
We follow historical maps by 90% . The rest 10% has to do with the game's better way of play.

[Stark1]

Will ERE have all it's starting territory or will there be some random rebel lands like in vanilla? I always hated that.

[AnthoniusII]

As explained in another thread there will be some "grey" zones (rebels) in varius areas around some huge states.
That feature allow us to show:
The political instability in some regions.
The frequent change of borders.
Also they will allow players to gain crusial time to learn how mod works with out provoking huge and powerfull factions from the start.
Imagine that you play as Bulgaria but you do not know how mod mechanisms work. Suddenly Roman Empire attacks you because there is no alternative to expand else where.
You find your self against a mighty opponet without chances of survival.
But. Lets supose that RE tries to regain the rebel teritories in anatolia.
Now you have the time to develop your state and learn how mod works.
You try to invade in a rebel teritory that is between you and the RE.
But as the region is still rebel you do not directly provoke RE to attack you. The examples are endless mostly with smaller factions that need :
Time to develop.
Space to expand.
Everything in TGC has its own goal. That is why i said that we follow the historical maps by "only" 90%.

[2Shy]

Great preview ! Cant wait for the second part .

[Auto-Nabishtam]

Good job AnthoniusII vey talented models!

[AnthoniusII]

Good job AnthoniusII vey talented models!

These models are direct result of work of all the CBUR/TGC creators.

[matmohair1]

hope this helps, excerpts from "armies of the dark ages" by Ian Heath & other sources

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Dman1993]

Sorry, will in this mod any Roman units with crest helmets?

[AnthoniusII]

Sorry, will in this mod any Roman units with crest helmets?

Crest helmets??

[neoptolemos]

Crest helmets??

He means the decorative crests over some Roman helmets, an antiquation element.

[AnthoniusII]

Well then no...
Despite the fact that some historians insist the Medieval Romans (Byzantines) of 10th and 11th century still used hellenistic or late roman elements in their equipment, the millitary manuals of the Romans themselves describe an equipment heavily influenced by steppe and eastern ones!
See my avatar for example. The warrior uses a rather steppe helmet and not a clasic hellenistico/roman one.
There is no image of any byzantine chronicles of 10th-11th that shows helmets with crests. Maybe in some rare occasions like parades high ranked officials could use such equipment for prestise matters.

[Dman1993]

Well then no...
Despite the fact that some historians insist the Medieval Romans (Byzantines) of 10th and 11th century still used hellenistic or late roman elements in their equipment, the millitary manuals of the Romans themselves describe an equipment heavily influenced by steppe and eastern ones!
See my avatar for example. The warrior uses a rather steppe helmet and not a clasic hellenistico/roman one.
There is no image of any byzantine chronicles of 10th-11th that shows helmets with crests. Maybe in some rare occasions like parades high ranked officials could use such equipment for prestise matters.

In matmohair1's spoiler , there is an Emperor Basel II with crest and also officer. So i mean quite simplistic one, maybe like that one for example:

[diez]

this picture shows a 6th century roman soldier...http://www.pegasomodels.it/productdetails_en.asp?id=649

from what i know in this time(which is a bit away from this mods timeframe)such helmets were used

[neoptolemos]

6th cent Justinian army also

[Dman1993]

But in matmohair1's spoiler? There is cataphract officer with such a helmet

[AnthoniusII]

But in matmohair1's spoiler? There is cataphract officer with such a helmet

In the translated military manuals helmets dicribed with plumes.
and not crests. But no one can be sure. As i said parade armors may were diferent than battle ones. Even for Basill II that had the fame that was dressed/armed like his own soldiers in battle exept the cloths (tunic,cloak and boots) that looked diferent. Basill II was famous for his minimalistic ideas and his attempts to make the empire strong not only in molitary but in financial terms!
He made only th enesessary expences unlike other Emperors before and after him!

[Dman1993]

So you will made officer or general with that helm?))

[AnthoniusII]

So you will made officer or general with that helm?))

Maybe...maybe not...we will deside when time comes.

[AnthoniusII]

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[absinthia]

c`mon now kiddies. no bickering!