Archers Spam Fix In Campaign

**BanzaiMAsterTW** · April 01, 2011, 12:06 PM

Would be great if anyone could make small mod to reduce Ai's production of archers in campaign map for 70-80% , cause this is annoying , i know dart made "full" mod and fixed but i m playing Shogun 2 realism(loong batles) so if anyone could do it , would be great.

**zowrath** · April 02, 2011, 06:54 AM

I'm gonna do a version later on but I need to finish some of the things I am currently working on. And I am in no hurry to release something without thoroughly testing it first as I don't like to just churn out mods for the sake of producing the first one, many, too fast etc.

Quality, not quantity.

Archer spam is not something you reduce unless you just want to cut the AI's ability to throw archers at you. If that's what people are looking for then the easiest way would just be setting their recruitment number to 10 or some other desired number, but that would affect you as well. I'm sure someone else will pop some quick fix like this sometime soon.

I feel the need to balance it so it affects the player and AI alike, evens the playing field. This will take some time, even if it means my Archery fix will be the 10th to be released, it should be well balanced.

**Yarkis de Bodemloze** · April 03, 2011, 01:18 AM

Why don't you ask the realism team? I don't see that there is a general archer spam in vanilla and as long as the didn't change anything with the CAi recruitment files there shouldn't be one in there mod. CA did a good job balancing armies especially later in the game. Usualy range units make up 20-30% percent of an army.

**zowrath** · April 04, 2011, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Yarkis

I don't see that there is a general archer spam in vanilla and as long as the didn't change anything with the CAi recruitment files there shouldn't be one in there mod. CA did a good job balancing armies especially later in the game. Usualy range units make up 20-30% percent of an army.

This is not a constant though. I have encountered armies in late game that consists of 80% archers, even Samurai archers. There are a lot of small bugs still in the game, and there's not been a major patch yet. Diplomacy is wonky too, the other day the Uesugi kept piling Dishonouring Treaties on me until it was -487, even we had a trading agreement and was playing Shimazu on the other side of the map not at war with anyone after I took over our island. Then they broke their trade agreement with me, and suddenly DT dropped to 0 and they wanted to trade with me again. At which point the DT started to rise, again.

So, in essence, for myself I'm not going to balance anything until at least the first major patch has come out as bugs can unbalance even the balanced.