so there's no Toyotomi clan at all?

[SaengsaWang]

the name said it all.

[stradar1]

the name said it all.

Yep looks like it!................

[wis]

the name said it all.

Obviously not. Since Toyotomi Hideyoshi first came to prominence in 1583 after having consolidated his power after the death of Oda Nobunaga. The game starts in 1545..

[stradar1]

Obviously not. Since Toyotomi Hideyoshi first came to power in 1583 after having consolidated his power after the death of Oda Nobunaga. The game starts in 1545..

Could be moded as a riseing faction I guess.

[Altimis]

may be its come with expansion? like Napoleon Total War....

[SonOfOdin]

I believe the Toyotomi were a part of the Oda clan...

[Smart3]

may be its come with expansion? like Napoleon Total War....

Doubtful since the Battle of Sekigahara is included in S2TW.

Obviously not. Since Toyotomi Hideyoshi first came to prominence in 1583 after having consolidated his power after the death of Oda Nobunaga. The game starts in 1545..

Right, as Toyotomi only came to power because of Akechi's betrayal of Oda Nobunaga and his heir.

[wis]

I believe the Toyotomi were a part of the Oda clan...

Well to be precise it wasn't until 1586 that Hashiba Hideyoshi was given the name of Toyotomi by the Imperial court. So he was still known as Hashiba Hideyoshi uptill 1586. Also he was not from a clan himself and he was never adopted by anyone, so technically there wasn't a clan until 1586 when he started the Toyotomi clan.

[Dodge]

There's no Cameron clan in the game either, it's .

[Fredster30]

The Tokugawa didnt use the Tokugawa name until 1567 when the future Shogun, born Matsudaira Takechiyo, decided to take the name Tokugawa Ieyasu.

So technically there weren't a such named clan in 1545.

[wis]

Its the same thing with the "Uesugi" clan in the vanilla campaign. The Nagao clan ruled echigo and it wasn't until 1551 when Nagao Kagetora(Kenshin) inherited the Uesugi clan, that he changed his name to Uesugi Masatora and later to Uesugi Kenshin when he took the tonsure.

[Fredster30]

Exactly!

[Fredster30]

By the way while we are griping about history (or lack of), did anyone else react to the fact that the Oda can become Shogun in the game? They were descendants of the Taira family, not Minamoto.
I dont know if Toyotomi Hideyoshi appears in the game, but he could never have become Shogun anyways because of the fact that he was born and raised a peasant. Although in the end he held other titles that gave him all the power anyways.
Even Tokugawa Ieyasus claimed lineage to the old families were also questionable, but he pulled it off anyways and became Shogun.

[Flipside1]

Here's to hoping the they will be added in the upcoming Korean Invasion expansion.
(No, I didn't hear any rumors, just wishful thinking)...

[Fredster30]

Here's to hoping the they will be added in the upcoming Korean Invasion expansion.
(No, I didn't hear any rumors, just wishful thinking)...

I'll drink to that! It doesnt just have to be a Korean invasion expansion. Toyotomi Hideyoshis original dream was to invade China through Korea and then head as far as India!