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    Ikko-Ikki
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    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...655?tab=public

    i got tax rate in one city up >100%

    must suck to live here

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    Gallus's Avatar Baitai kihei
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    anything above normal is moronic to say the least. you'll have negative growth and trust me, you don't want that.



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    skullman86's Avatar Kihei
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    They look pretty happy to me lol

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    AHAHA The peasants have to pay their lord 105% of their produce!!!!!!!

    "I don't care if you only produced 10 koku, get me 10.5 koku NOW!"

    EDIT: wait a minute...why is your username Miley Cyrus?
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    Default Re: very high tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    anything above normal is moronic to say the least. you'll have negative growth and trust me, you don't want that.
    He has 3 metsuke in the city all propably specialised in overseeing settlements. The city growth is positive and everyones happy

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    "Username: Miley Cyrus"

    Wait what


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    Doe3000's Avatar Taihō no heishi
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    I've never managed to get my taxes up to Very High in Shogun 2. In Rome I would automatically set every tax rate in every province to Very High without having to worry much if there were around 3-4 units in the city.

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    Love your profile on Steam

    "I am Miley Cyrus, Disney's latest machination of pure and unhindered greed."

    Made me smile
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    How the hell do you get more than it's worth? There should be a cap on 100%
    Money? I'm in...

    Today's capitalism is when you contribute to society the least you can and profit the most you can.

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    we have excellent health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    anything above normal is moronic to say the least. you'll have negative growth and trust me, you don't want that.
    I completely disagree. Don't think I could have dominated with Takeda on Legendary the way I did without some extended use of very high taxes.

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    very nice agent use happiness + tax bonus
    good games.

    portal, world of goo, battle for wesnoth.

    ({[ tetris ]})

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    one question how can you have more than 100,000 money and near 8k incom but only have like 4-5 provinces?

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    im at 21 provinces and income is around 4k .. people are so unhappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt_Dave View Post
    one question how can you have more than 100,000 money and near 8k incom but only have like 4-5 provinces?
    Loots lots of provinces and sell military access to your neighbors early on. Get all the trade nodes

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    Kind of a newbish question probably, but is it possible to raise taxes in single cities? All the time I played now, I only now that you can rais tax globally and so if only one city turns red after raise I couldn't do it which is pretty annoying. Especially in my home town with amazin siege and all good people, they are paying almost nothing and are happy as maniacs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt_Dave View Post
    one question how can you have more than 100,000 money and near 8k incom but only have like 4-5 provinces?
    With a 105% Tax Rate, of course.

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    I tend to keep my tax rate vacillating between 'very high' and 'high', so as to allow only mounting tensions which do not spill over into rebellion. I know that there is nothing strategically subtle about this, yet it has worked fine for me on every TW game since Shogun, and though it may prolong game-dynamics because of its' ham-handedness, it nevertheless gets the job done; my peasants may not be happy, but they ain't that upset, either.

    Right now, at 1605 (my Shogunate) w/ 36 provinces, 11 vassals and 11 trade-partners (obviously), I am running 'very high'-tax on 29 provinces, 'exempt' alternating with 'very high' on the remainder, w/ a treasury of 40,000 + about 1200/per and food shortage of -6; as soon as the 13 or so provinces finish the next farm upgrade(s) I'll be in the red, and since I control a monopoly of trade-nodes and the next-strongest power is Chokosobe w/ 4 provinces, it looks like a time of prosperity w/ isolated aggression is immanent. Pax Japanicus is likely to be very smooth for the bulk of my population (nice recompense for their years of koku-pinching), while such beneficent tyranny as I will provide looks to be the future of those few peasants yet on the fringe, predominantly on the southwestern island and the Chokosobe territories - this too will pass into the Golden Age of My Rising Sun.

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    Default Re: very high tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Shikayama View Post
    Kind of a newbish question probably, but is it possible to raise taxes in single cities? All the time I played now, I only now that you can rais tax globally and so if only one city turns red after raise I couldn't do it which is pretty annoying. Especially in my home town with amazin siege and all good people, they are paying almost nothing and are happy as maniacs.
    Yes, but only through buildings(highest levels of temple/sake den) and metsuke(5% tax per point of cunning, their main stat). You can only raise/lower the "slider" for the entire empire.

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    Default Re: very high tax rate

    well i have massive trade income from having a full stack on 4 trade nodes
    in this particular game i specifically tried to get >100% tax rate so i spent alot of turns just training up metsukes while the money pile up.

    you cant use high tax rate. it is unsustainable. you need to generate sustainable growth by having town growth from surplus food (upgrade every farm as soon as possible) while upgrading buildings with trade income since im the mori. i went straight for the trade node at the start of the game with 1 trade ship each and pile them up later. you should never ever be in the red with food. dont upgrade castle. at teh start of the game you only need ashigarus. samurais are just expensive and you dont need them until the enemy starts showing up with stacks of sams.

    i was about +4k before i put my mets in iwami. so it was about 4k trade 4k tax - 4k upkeep i think. disband your troops when youre not in a war, only have men where you are at most risk from getting attacked.

    once you hit realm divide there is no need for more yearly surplus so build units until you are at about +500 per turn then stop.

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