Possible to edit the keys.dat file or change console key?

[the-small-print]

Hi, new here and registered for this specific question since i couldn't find an answer by searching.

I know console keys are different depending on your keyboard, and I know what mine is - it's the apostrophe ' key. Trouble is, that is the same key as the quotes ", so whenever I need to refer to a unit or settlement ID I can only use the ones with single names; no underscores or spaces, because they don't need quotes. As soon as I try to type " it closes the console.

Basically, this is a pain in the arse. I have tried changing my keyboard language in win 7 but it doesn't seem to change anything, and I can't find a programme to edit the keys.dat file and manually change it.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers.

[EP!anastasi]

Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers.

Yeah, stop cheating!

[Nazgûl Killer]

Cheating is sometimes too much fun.

Hmm... I think there should be an option to change that button in the controls menu but I'm not too sure. Try accessing the controls menu through the main menu while not ingame.

[the-small-print]

Nah, thre isn't an easy way I know of to do it with menus. I can bind something else to the ' key (and get the warning that 'this key is bound to show developer console' or whatever) to clear it, but then I've just got no console key.

I found you can open the .dat file in notepad, too, but the ' character does not appear anywhere in it, and changes to the file do not last past opening the programme.

Edit: worked it out! For anyone else searching this, you need to change the language controls on your keyboard to something like German, then randomly poke the keys to see what they're mapped to now. Was sure I had tried this, but apparently not

[mrgijsje]

Hi guys, i have got an problem: I wanted to play TATW DAC with another keyboard, so i plugged it in (TATW was running), but when i unplugged the keyboard, all keys worked except this one:` Thats the key where you open the commandconsole with, and i want to cheat but i can't because the key isn't working. The key only doesnt work in TATW (It even works in Medival 2 total war) I already reinstalled TATW and DAC but there was no diffrence, please help me.

[irishron]

Hi guys, i have got an problem: I wanted to play TATW DAC with another keyboard, so i plugged it in (TATW was running), but when i unplugged the keyboard, all keys worked except this one:` Thats the key where you open the commandconsole with, and i want to cheat but i can't because the key isn't working. The key only doesnt work in TATW (It even works in Medival 2 total war) I already reinstalled TATW and DAC but there was no diffrence, please help me.

I don't have the mod installed nor am I going to install so you will have to tell me if they have the console disabled in its .cfg. Do they?

[mrgijsje]

I don't have the mod installed nor am I going to install so you will have to tell me if they have the console disabled in its .cfg. Do they?

No they haven't disabled it, i used it before i had this problem i always used the ~ key to open the debug console, i use that for cheats for money. As long as i can cheat the money, its fine. Isn't there an trainer for money that works in TATW?

[irishron]

I haven't run across a trainer for it. Can you go back a save and see if the key works on it?

[mrgijsje]

I haven't run across a trainer for it. Can you go back a save and see if the key works on it?

The ~ key doesnt work...

[mrgijsje]

Can you go into the save file and change your amount of money?

[irishron]

Can you go into the save file and change your amount of money?

Nobody has found a way yet.

Check the language settings of your keyboard. Odds are they aren't pure English, either US or UK.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post13428374

[mrgijsje]

My keybard is US, and ~key doesnt work in Medival 2 Gold Edition and TATW DAC, but in for instance google chrome or windows the key just works...

[irishron]

Might sound nuts but try it with a different browser?

Are you using a laptop?

[mrgijsje]

Might sound nuts but try it with a different browser?

Are you using a laptop?

Haha, yeah i'm using a laptop (Acer Aspire), eehm but what does my bowser has to do with Third Age total war if i may ask?

[ElvenKind]

Haha, yeah i'm using a laptop (Acer Aspire), eehm but what does my bowser has to do with Third Age total war if i may ask?

I see you are posting about this even here ( LINK ) cause I gave you the answer how to change the keyboard input language.

I had this similar problem loooong ago and my cheat key is the key just under the ESC key. Also, have you tried to go to DaC Keyboard options and set to Default settings? That usually works.

[mrgijsje]

I see you are posting about this even here ( LINK ) cause I gave you the answer how to change the keyboard input language.

I had this similar problem loooong ago and my cheat key is the key just under the ESC key. Also, have you tried to go to DaC Keyboard options and set to Default settings? That usually works.

I changed my language to US, and i already did default settings, but that didn't work...

[irishron]

Since Elvenkind and the TATW team have this figured out, I'll leave this in their hands.

[Gigantus]

text\descr_shortcuts appears to be just a general listing of key bindings - changing entries in there doesn't change anything in the options, else you could change this entry:

show_console                GRAVE_ACCENT    hidden

grave accent is the ~ symbol on the English keyboard

Edit: it's actually very easy

Delete the hidden remark in the descr_shortcut file (place descr_shortcuts into the vanilla data\text folder)
Delete keys.dat in the preferences folder (vanilla and mods)
Start your game and change the key setting (misc)



Edit 2: just checked it by changing\adding Alt+C as key combination - works perfectly.

Edit 3: to completely get rid of the original setting TWO identical entries in descr_shortcut need to be changed

From

show_console                GRAVE_ACCENT    hidden

To

show_console                C ALT

This makes the Alt+C combination the default to call up the console - the setting can then be changed via options\key setting\misc



Here is the brand new tutorial for it: Creating a World - Changing hidden key board settings

[freakazoid]

with this is there any possibility to change the standard <- ^ -> movement keys to AWD ?

[Gigantus]

You can change the camera buttons via the regular options, but I think it might be only for the battle camera which at the moment uses the numerical keypad. You will also have to re-assign the conflicting key settings.