How to get Massive amounts of koku through diplomacy

**Strategoi** · March 24, 2011, 06:23 PM

Note: Using this exploit might affect game balance, so you have been warned.

Having played this game for a few days on the hard level, it's become painfully evident that there's a cashflow problem with the game. Here's how you can alleviate some of it through simple diplomacy.

This trick will only work on factions which directly border your territory. All you have to do is go to the diplomacy screen, pick a bordering faction and offer them Military Access. Always start off with 5 turns. The probably for success should be listed as 'High'. Then demand a cash payment from them. The amount they will agree to should be between 750 to 1750 koku. You will know when you hit their payout limit when the success meter changes to 'Moderate'.

You can then either wait 5 turns until the agreement expires and farm them for more money or if you're really strapped for cash, you can immediately offer them 10 turns of Military Access and milk them for more money in the same turn (though you will get less cash this way). That being said, you can incrementally move up to 20 turns and unlimited on the same turn as well.

You can get on average around 1000 koku from each neighbor every 5 turns. I personally find that even this big boost in income barely covers expenses, but it's definitely better than nothing. If there is one caveat, it's that you will get flagged as 'Dishonoring Treaties' among other things if you attack a faction while the agreement is in force so you will have to plan your offensives in advance.

Maybe our daimyos should just quit their day jobs and be diplomatic gold farmers instead.

I don't think this qualifies as a bug, but it's certainly an exploit.

Have fun and don't let this trick ruin your game.

**StrongIsland** · March 24, 2011, 06:45 PM

Haha that's certainly an interesting find! If you're playing on the harder levels though, I reckon you're actually looking for a challenge without any shortcuts, but this is great for people who are struggling on the Normal difficulty.

**-iceblade^** · March 24, 2011, 08:33 PM

yes, but military access?

doesn't that open you to being attacked?

**I WUB PUGS** · March 24, 2011, 09:22 PM

No, you can't attack if you have access. However if you end up breaking your access agreements for any reason your daimyo will suffer an honor penalty.

**-iceblade^** · March 25, 2011, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS

No, you can't attack if you have access. However if you end up breaking your access agreements for any reason your daimyo will suffer an honor penalty.

I mean being attacked by them. Ie they backstab you and take a province.

**Stil** · March 25, 2011, 10:52 AM

Does this empty the coffers of the other factions?

**TdM** · March 25, 2011, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by -iceblade^

I mean being attacked by them. Ie they backstab you and take a province.

No I don't believe they can attack either (though I cannot guarantee that). As far as I've seen you need to 'declare war' to attack and as soon as you do the access rights are refused and the army is moved back to your own territory (from my experience with the AI)

**Drowsy** · March 27, 2011, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Strategoi

Note: Using this exploit might affect game balance, so you have been warned.

Having played this game for a few days on the hard level, it's become painfully evident that there's a cashflow problem with the game.

No there isn't. The Chi wants you

**GambleFish** · March 27, 2011, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by TdM

No I don't believe they can attack either (though I cannot guarantee that). As far as I've seen you need to 'declare war' to attack and as soon as you do the access rights are refused and the army is moved back to your own territory (from my experience with the AI)

I think you might actually be able to backstab people and not get kicked out. I haven't actually tried it, but I've seen a diplomatic penalty against one of my enemies that basically said they betrayed my military access or something. I've also had one ally march halfway across my lands to attack another, and when I sided with the defender his armies stayed in my territory. Idk about straight up betraying, but it might be possible.

**SgtLong** · March 27, 2011, 11:05 PM

Wow nickle and dime...actually the real money is in the real terms of the deal. Do unlimited access and get 2-3K, really its a matter of build up of the +40-60 range of liking you that can inspire such transactions. If they get to close to you and you do not like it, then revoke it. Yes it will hurt your standing but who cares you got your cash.