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    Icon4 Request: Military Monastic Order titles

    We would like help from you the community to compile a complete list of titles of each military order.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...wA&hl=en#gid=0

    The military orders we have in game are
    Templars
    Hospitallers
    Teutonic
    Montesa
    St Lazarus
    Order of the Sepulchre
    Order of the Sword of Cyprus
    Montjoie
    St Thomas at Acon
    Santiago
    Sant Jordi d'Alfama
    Alcantara
    Calatrava
    St Aviz
    Order of Christ
    Livonian
    Order of Aubrac
    St James of Altopascio



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    Templars-
    The Grand Master
    Answered to none save the pope, once elected you serve for life.
    Seneschal
    Right hand man to Grand Master, more of an administrative leader, along with Grand Master ruled over eight Templar provincial Masters. These provinces were chiefly Aragon, Apulia, England, France, Hungary, Poitiers, Portugal and Scotland.
    Marshal
    The Templar in charge of war and anything that was related to it. If you are adding retinues to characters then his personal retinue was comprised of two squires, one turcoman, one turcopolier and one sergeant.
    Under Marshal
    The Under Marshal was in charge of the footmen and the equipment.
    Turcopolier
    This officer was the third in line militarily. He was in command of the light cavalry and the Sergeant brothers.
    Standard Bearer
    The Standard Bearer was in charge of the squires, also the paymaster and chief disciplinarian.
    Draper
    The Draper was in charge of the Templar garments and linens and while this may seem like a menial task, the Templar Rule of Order states that after the Master and Marshal, the Draper was superior to all brethren. He could chastise any one of any rank if their attire was unsuitable to the Order.
    The Draper had in his personal retinue two squires, a number of tailors and one brother in charge of the pack animals who would carry supplies.
    Commanders of the Lands: Jerusalem, Antioch and Tripoli
    These Templar officers operated under the Masters much like Bailiffs. Commanders were responsible for all Templar houses, castles and farms in their jurisdiction.
    The personal retinue of the Commanders consisted of two squires, two foot soldiers, one sergeant, one deacon and one Saracen scribe.
    Commanders of knights, houses and farms (Casals)
    These Templars fell under the Commanders of Lands and were responsible for the day to day operations of the various estates under their care.
    Provincial Masters
    Provincial Masters, governed the western districts, and were similar to the Commanders of Lands, but seem to have largely been responsible for managing revenue and recruiting new men to the Order.
    Treasurer
    Kept the books for the Order.
    Knights and Sergeants
    The bulk of the Templar’s military might was comprised of knights and sergeants. Knights had to be men of noble birth and was permitted one squire. Both a knights father and grandfather must also have been knights to be permitted to become one. Sergeants did not have to be of noble birth and had no squires under their command.
    Squires
    Assisted the knight in any way possible, it was initially a hired position, only later in the Order's history did Squires join specifically to try and rise to the level of Knight.

    Hope all this is helpful.
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    Default Re: Request: Military Monastic Order titles

    Please input it into the google document

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    I've requested access to edit the document.

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    I've updated the document as requested, also have this information, don't know if it can be implemented or not.
    Lancea-Lance
    A Lance usually consists of a knight, sergeant and eight Armsmen.
    Uexillum-Banner
    Ten Lances form a Banner
    Turma-Squadron
    Ten Banners form a Squadron
    Prælium-Battle
    Ten Squadrons form a Battle. The Battles are traditionally divided into the Van, Left Wing, Right Wing, the Center or Main Battle, and the Rear Guard.

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    Default Re: Request: Military Monastic Order titles

    Thank you, it's mainly titles of the offices within each Order that we need- great work!

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    Cheers Hross, I've also added an additional eleven ranks for the Teutonic Order and updated the existing two entries. In the case of the Teutonic Order, the top officers seemed to have been elected every year, while this would be a hassle or impossible to simulate in game, if you can, you might stretch this re-election to every five years so the characters actually feel the benefit of the titles. Or you could just keep them till death. Also some possible ancillaries for the Order:
    Some serving brethren, called Heimlike and Soldner. Many of these were volunteering, others received payment as real servants. Squires were selected from the ranks of the serving brothers. Sister-aids (halpswesteren) and brother-aids (halpbrüderen) were religious domestic servants. Turcopoles (light cavalry) were also popular to serve a knight alongside a squire in both the Templar and Teutonic Orders.

    In regard to many of the remaining orders, they all roughly followed the same ranking system, the Templar, Hospitaller and Teutonic systems being more extensive due to their wealth and holdings. It would probably just be a question of translating the ranks into the respective languages for many of the remaining religious orders.

    Edit: Forgot to mention that the Teutons, even among their peers, were an extremely pious order, taking four religious vows compared to a Templar's two to three depending on the knight. For that reason I've recommended a piety bonus for each rank.
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    Updated document with Spanish order ranks (Santiago, Calatrava, Montesa, Alcantara). In addition also updated document with Order of Sepulchre, Christ and St. Lazarus.

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    Finished updating the remaining Orders with ranks, note: Didn't add 3 orders (Sant Jordi d'Alfama, Livonian and Aubrac) because the Order of Sant Jordi d'Alfama soon merged with the Montesa Order and thus mimics their ranks, the Livonian Order merges with the Teutonic Order and becomes a branch with the same structure and the Order of Aubrac mimics the Hospitaller structure.

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    Great work! +rep

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