Weird encounter

**Abriael** · March 23, 2011, 05:33 PM

yesterday I encountered quite a weird army composition in a multiplayer match. The guy had 3 hero units (I believe katana, bow and yari), 2 great guard units, one units of matchlock monks, and one of european cannons. I got a little intimidated, thinking that he was some kind of super veteran, with all those rare units most of which I didn't even see in multiplayer yet.

The obvious disadvantage he had is that his whole army was less than 400 men, while mine, made mostly by ashigaru and a few samurai was 4 times as large as his. So I get everyone in my army in loose formation, run my general behind a hill as soon as he starts to try and snipe him and start advancing as fast as possible. Of course he doesn't move of a inch hiding behind the cannons. Thanks to the loose formation my casualities aren't unbearable, and i finally charge his face and obliterate pretty much whatever he has without breaking much sweat.

Now I wonder: did I encounter an overleveled newbie with a completely broken army, or there's actually some merit in such a small but elite setup and I just got lucky?

**buttski** · March 23, 2011, 05:40 PM

Everybody knows you need some numbers to let your army work. Had the same with a 3v3 with some some friends. We got some opponents only fielding monk/hero units and nothing else. We mopp'd the floor with them with our balanced armies.

**Ritterlichvon86** · March 23, 2011, 05:40 PM

I would mention that in my opinion every army needs some cheap throw-away troops for various reasons.

**Abriael** · March 23, 2011, 05:52 PM

Ok glad to see I'm not the only thinking like that. I was trying to wrap my head around what possible "secret winning tactic" he might have had, for the future, but couldn't find even one

**Meataus** · March 23, 2011, 07:38 PM

Yeah, sounds like a pretty silly army, the guy was probably just experimenting. I bring the katana hero to a 14k game, and thats about as high tech as I get.

A katana hero will absolutely chew through enemy infantry of any sort. His weakness, like all heroes, is arrows... lots of arrows!

**looneyXL** · March 23, 2011, 09:26 PM

I won't field hero units very often, but if I do, I usually use the Yari Hero or sometimes even the bow here (since I generally only field 1-3 archer units anyways, depending on the fund level). It really depends on the fund amount though. I make sure that my numbers are good if I'm going to field a hero unit. They can be really powerful. For instance, it was a large fund amount 1v1 I was in, and I believe I only had 2 bow units, so I fielded my Yari heroes and sure enough he tried to flank me with 3-4 cavalry units, which were decimated by my Yari heroes. So IMO you should consider using them every now and then whenever you unlock them.

**Daria** · March 23, 2011, 10:25 PM

Hmmmm, well if it weren't for the cannon he I would have thought that he might be going after the "Legendary Force" achievement, but that's If you win with just your general, and hero units.

**Stil** · March 23, 2011, 11:29 PM

Grats on your win. <3 Zerg!!!!

**Abriael** · March 23, 2011, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Daria

Hmmmm, well if it weren't for the cannon he I would have thought that he might be going after the "Legendary Force" achievement, but that's If you win with just your general, and hero units.

Oh, I didn't know there was such an achievement. Now I want to get the hero units and unlock it lol

**GambleFish** · March 24, 2011, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Abriael

Oh, I didn't know there was such an achievement. Now I want to get the hero units and unlock it lol

Word of advice (got lucky on my first try at this) - make sure its a small battle, then get your bow (or yari) hero hurt down to 60% strength or so in the battle before, so you can take all 3 with ya.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · March 24, 2011, 02:59 AM

Well I 'll have to make such kind of army too when I will be able because there is an achievement to unlock about a hero army ....

**xccam** · March 24, 2011, 03:02 AM

a bow hero plus a cannon, sounds to me like his plan rests on general sniping.

**greatlordd** · March 24, 2011, 06:26 AM

Katana Heroes are nasty, had fight where I destroyed this guys great cav, his bow monks and his general and a third of his katana units. But he used his katana samurai as a meat shield for his heroes.

DO heores if upgraded increase the morale of other units?