Need some help with Oda

**Grimreapo** · March 18, 2011, 08:42 AM

Okay I am playing as the Oda on Legendary and I am gonna hit a problem:

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CLick on there to see the mini map, its hard to see but the very light pink is the Saito my vassels and my my brahs for life, being pure win and loyal. So with all of that I have hit a problem:
1) Trade is my my main income, I need to switch this to a interal source before the Realm divide, what is the best way?

2) What is the best way to expand without getting the Ire of the Shogun? As you can see I need Secure the North of Japan, I have enough men to do so but I dont want those south panises to get thier knickers in a twist and attack me whilst I am laying down an northern smack down.

3) Can someone link to that resource map of Shogun 2? Its black and white with each province's reasource noted, I need it for campagin planning,,,

**L'Ost** · March 18, 2011, 08:55 AM

1 - take one stack
2 - conquer and burn a castle of your ennemy
3 - retreat
4 - buy 4 bune/4arrows, lots of commercial ship
5 - conquer back a commercial point

**Grimreapo** · March 18, 2011, 09:01 AM

What differcult did I say I was on? At the moment I am at peace but I cant do a random attack because if it goes wrong I cannot correct it! Also if I burn a castle and run the rebels that take the keep will be uber charged and scary with the bonuses they get...

**Becephalus** · March 18, 2011, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Grimreapo

Okay I am playing as the Oda on Legendary and I am gonna hit a problem:

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CLick on there to see the mini map, its hard to see but the very light pink is the Saito my vassels and my my brahs for life, being pure win and loyal. So with all of that I have hit a problem:
1) Trade is my my main income, I need to switch this to a interal source before the Realm divide, what is the best way?

2) What is the best way to expand without getting the Ire of the Shogun? As you can see I need Secure the North of Japan, I have enough men to do so but I dont want those south panises to get thier knickers in a twist and attack me whilst I am laying down an northern smack down.

3) Can someone link to that resource map of Shogun 2? Its black and white with each province's reasource noted, I need it for campagin planning,,,

1, Make vassals, then you still have trade partners.
2, I have not seen one. I would just get as close as possible, then spend a few turns building alliances/economy, and letting your expansionism et cetra wind down. Then you just need to fight everyone.
3, There is a resource map on the provinces tab in the minimap.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · March 18, 2011, 11:15 AM

You did quite a lot for beeing on legendary , when I tried and got 3 provinces / 4 , the pc cheats and sendsme lots of armies , the allies turn the shoulders and attack you and the vassals do rebel and attack you , and I just had 4 provinces at the most , I think they made it not insanely difficoult but impossible to win since thepc cheats too much on this level ...

**Grimreapo** · March 18, 2011, 01:15 PM

The trick is buffer states, on the get go you ally with the blue folk to the east, you then defeat the rivals and then do the seige. Once the siege is over you turn north to Satio and vasselize them, you then turn south taking the Tokugawa and one of Imagawa hold, sign a peace treaty (dont vassel) and then defend you vassels. Watch out for the Ikko Ikko though...

There is a resource map on the provinces tab in the minimap.

Wow, thats made me feel dense, that so handy!

**Death_Sheep** · March 18, 2011, 10:23 PM

My suggestion is take Izu fromt he Takeda. The goldmine there is great, as Uesugi on normal/normal I fought my way down there and ended up taking it, it relieves a lot of economic stress from trade.

I currently have the Hatori navy taking some of my trade positions, so it came as a great boon that my income didn't just tank.

**xxoverlordxx** · March 18, 2011, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Death_Sheep

My suggestion is take Izu fromt he Takeda. The goldmine there is great, as Uesugi on normal/normal I fought my way down there and ended up taking it, it relieves a lot of economic stress from trade.

I currently have the Hatori navy taking some of my trade positions, so it came as a great boon that my income didn't just tank.

Yeah, capturing Izu would net you an extra 1000 koku. Expect it to be filled with a couple stacks as the buildings there and the difficulty, literally spam out armies from Izu. But it not only gives you economic benefit the AI most likely built stables for horses and such, which could give you some extra cavalry for your campaign.

**Grimreapo** · March 19, 2011, 01:16 AM

Stacks? Ha, the Takeda thankfull has had thier backs broke, I dont know if you can see but they suffered a load of rebellans and are really pathics right now, the only thing hold me back is a risk of a attack on my southern forces...

**PROMETHEUS ts** · March 19, 2011, 01:45 AM

Ok actually I am playing at legendary with Oda I got to have half of Japan and a powerfull ally that is like if he wasnt ingame as does nothing anyway its hard battle now to get shgunate ...