No, don't tell me there is Aztecs in MTW II!

[hellheaven1987]

Noooo, I have heard it that probably there would be Red Indian faction in MTW 2. That's ridiculous and unrealism! During the Medieval time, men didn't even know there is a land in the other side of sea! How do they "meet" the Aztec? And how could a crusader fight with a warrior of Aztec?

[Kinjo]

Well for starters the game ends in 1530 the discovery of the Americas was 1492 how is this ridiculous and unrealism! However I would rather the Aztecs not be in MTW2.

[hellheaven1987]

Yaya, but the Medieval ended when the Europeans started to reach the America! Don't forget that!

[~Alexander~]

And if u are good and blitz ai so in 1300 u will be in America and starting britain kingdom invasion by the sea ahhahaha NICE JOB sega

[hellheaven1987]

And if u are good and blitz ai so in 1300 u will be in America and starting britain kingdom invasion by the sea ahhahaha NICE JOB sega

Yayaya, but I wonder how long it takes to reach America in game time... (from the experience of RTW, I think should be one hundred year...)

[Imperator of Rome]

I think the aztec thing should be condition based,like by such and such time you should build up a fleet or something and the map transports to a small aztec land with limited armies

[hellheaven1987]

I think the aztec thing should be condition based,like by such and such time you should build up a fleet or something and the map transports to a small aztec land with limited armies

Mmm... it sounds a bit fun now.

[Cluny the Scourge]

The Aztecs should be a playable faction and you should be able to conquer Europe as them, and cut out Richard I's heart as a sacrifice to the gods to see if it really is a Lion's. And then the Pope's heart as well, just for the hell of it. That would put Christendom in its ****ing place, I tell you.

[Shadow_Imperator]

The Aztecs should be a playable faction and you should be able to conquer Europe as them, and cut out Richard I's heart as a sacrifice to the gods to see if it really is a Lion's. And then the Pope's heart as well, just for the hell of it. That would put Christendom in its ****ing place, I tell you.

ROLF.

Then the Byzzies stroll in and teach the Aztecs what warfare is about...

Byebye Armericanas! *Need a waving smiley*

[sera]

Well for starters the game ends in 1530 the discovery of the Americas was 1492 how is this ridiculous and unrealism! However I would rather the Aztecs not be in MTW2.

Urm, the only reason the campaign has been extended that far (450 years - significantly more than any other single TW game AFAIK), is to justify the inclusion of the New World element. I for one would have liked to have the manhours allocated to a non-medieval theme rather go to for instance a better AI or more depth in the "true campaign" (Europe and the Middle-East).

The Mongols and later, the Timurs or the Ottomans would be an appropriate late game deus ex machina if you will. A last challenge to prevent the game from becoming stale or predictable. I fail to see how a gold rush, mopping up natives with clubs and blowpipes on another continent when the Old World powers would realistically possess muskets and cannons has anything to do with the middle ages (which basically ended with the European overseas exploration), much less pose a fitting late game challenge.

All in all, I'd say it's a bad, BAD, idea and I hope CA reconsiders. I'd rather have the New World in an expansion pack at a later date.

[Shadow_Imperator]

Yup, 100% in full agreeance.

[Frost, colonel]

And if u are good and blitz ai so in 1300 u will be in America and starting britain kingdom invasion by the sea ahhahaha NICE JOB sega

I don't agree that Blizting is good playing, in order to have a challenge, let the AI build unmolested.

Seen as the technology prob won't be available untill a set time, I don't think anyone will be going on a holiday to south America early.
As for the Aztecs I quite like the idea(although I have not played yet) I like the idea of something different in the game.

[Zawath]

I hope the victory condition for some countries is sailing to America and conquering it.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

I hope the victory condition for some countries is sailing to America and conquering it.

Spain will probably have that one and maybe Portugal.
But my danes will make it difficult for them

[Swe_gamer]

I think it could be an interesting addition and give some flavour to the game instead of making the exact same game with just better graphics etc. I want to see CA create a jungle environment and a new building set (if they don´t seee this as their big chance to include fantasy units).

Heavily armoured knights will be at an advantage in this climate, meaning that the invaders will have to focus on less armour as they had to do in real life and thereby evening the odds somewhat. You would also not be able to transport mass amounts of canons/troops etc thanks to the distance/costs associated or start full production right away.

Don´t for a second believe that a few hundred spaniards defeated the massive Aztec population, a society heavily geared towards war (estimated around 15 million people). The Aztec capital was destroyed on August 31, 1521. The final attack of Tenochtitlan (Mexico City) was led by the Spaniards who had 400 men with 150,000! native allies. I sure would have liked to see those 400 spaniards try that on their own. I also wonder if there was a battle/siege in medieval Europe that had this many men in the field, please correct me if I am wrong. A common notion seems to be that a few spaniards kicked Aztec ass due to superior military technology. This simply is not true.

I wonder how they are going to implement this bit though; will you be able to go on this quest when you have conquered Europe/achieved your victory conditions or will you be able to launch an invasion during the campaign and thereby drawing resources away from your main campaign? Will more than one faction contend for this area, with huge goldmines/slaves etc being the lure? I assume you can be able to use local tribes/mercenaries upon arrival as you probably will be heavily outnumbered.

Looking forward to this part!

[iKossu]

Red Indian

That's racism! Aztecs seem off-topic faction but I think it's refreshing.

[Fuji]

And if u are good and blitz ai so in 1300 u will be in America and starting britain kingdom invasion by the sea ahhahaha NICE JOB sega

You'll probably be made impossible to go in to ocean sea before having a superb boten and that bote requires tech you can only get late in the game so that blitz like you've said is impossible

[Chuffy]

You're all forgetting the fact that there is no attrition in the game...

Are we to believe you can sail off to america with a fleet of dozens of ships and hundreds of men and not lose any on the way?

Pffft.

[z2ei]

Yes, they are in..and there's been nonstop complaining ever since CA announced the faction list.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

You're all forgetting the fact that there is no attrition in the game...

Are we to believe you can sail off to america with a fleet of dozens of ships and hundreds of men and not lose any on the way?

Pffft.

But there are storms.
They could easily edit so that the chance for storm is very high while traveling to the new world