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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    I have changed the Men-at-Arms Shields to look more generic. (Still WIP)


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    I also have something that Poly hasn't even seen yet

    English Spearmen Sergeants!

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    Ahah! You got me mate, I,m sure you still have more tricks in your sleeves

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    Warman, you sneeky bastard, ha ha. Behind our backs and everything :-P

    @Poly, I think you better pull in on the leash on this little jumper. hehe

    But to be honest warman, I liked your past shields even better. They were more... shall I say authentic. However, even if I'm colorblind I think the colours were to "strong" for medieval painters. If you know what I mean? The colour technology back then, you know. Anyway, have a repdrink on the house+ Skål!

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    The colors i can change to look more natural, with a combo of my skills and Frenchy's. But I can't make them like they were before, they weren't accuarate. What I have done instead of going back is this: In the pics above, I had taken all of my simple shields in my Coat of Arms Library, regardless of faction and placed them in my unit. I have updated the English version to CoA that still belong to England, but are still simple stuff like stripes, checkers, etc.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    my opinion only: if you want to make this about Western Europe you should may be add another French faction & northern Italian (In my opinion) the main conflict should be in this areas any English, Iberian or German factions are there "to just satellite" the main conflict

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    Quote Originally Posted by Druvatar De Bodemloze View Post
    any English, Iberian or German factions are there "to just satellite" the main conflict
    can i assume you are not European then...?
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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    no no, all the main areas need the same cares. Every area should be treated more or less independantly from the others, with a relatively equal distribution of faction.
    (please to note "relatively", not "abslolutely")

    Italians and french don't need more factions.(I'm native french-speaker descendant from corsi/piemonti/zeneixi...so I'm not "anti-south")
    I have to do a big work, yet, to set the actual "southern" factions suitable.
    well, its the fundus of my thinking...




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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    nvm
    Last edited by lolIsuck; April 27, 2011 at 03:29 PM.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 13/04/2011)

    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    He is dutch, and I think that he's kinda a bit right whit not making GErmany andso too important, the focus for power wasn't there.
    Adding another faction in France isn't really historically correct, it might not have been a total union, but I think it is fine like this, just don't do a lot of settlements on the outher parts of the map
    We made the mod that each part of Europe will struggle for a long time before coming to another section of Europe.

    Britannia: Wales vs England vs Scotland vs Ireland vs Norway.
    Scandinavia: Norway vs Denmark vs Sweden.
    Iberia: Castille vs Portugal vs Aragon vs Navare.
    Central Europe: France vs Britanny vs Flanders vs HRE vs England vs Navarre vs Swiss vs Burgundy vs Bohemia.
    Italy: Milan vs Genoa vs Florence vs Pisa vs HRE.

    And the beauty of having a smaller part of map is we can give more regions to a faction, we will try to make each faction that at least own 4 settlements for a better balance.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    An another update, I've attached a guideline at the first post that explain the recruitment values, the unit type and their description. I'll update the guide often so stay tuned for the latest new. Just a small note that this file is a "Word" file.
    Last edited by Polycarpe; April 21, 2011 at 04:02 PM.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    You made a mistake whit writing deus lo vult, you wrote dous lo vult, they won't be happy with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    You made a mistake whit writing deus lo vult, you wrote dous lo vult, they won't be happy with that
    Nope, I didn't make a mistake, check this http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=418611.
    Btw, have you see the guide I've just wrote attached at the OP?

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    I think that Cicero would be angry if he can see this mistake...




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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rus-Bey View Post
    I think that Cicero would be angry if he can see this mistake...
    It's corrected at the OP.

    Also, the base of the public mini-beta will be the kingdom expansion of Britannia; It will be more easier to mod and faster to release. It will require version 1.05 patch just to be sure it will work.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    election system for the Gaelic factions (Ireland, Scotland, Wales)
    I couldnt find any reference to this in the thread, what does this mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    I couldnt find any reference to this in the thread, what does this mean?
    Meaning there's several family tree (clans chief) who are part of the clan council. They will elect the best clan's chief to represent the High king of their faction. Some clans will approve, other not and the authority will be crucial to control your kingdom. That election system (with variation) will be applied to Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and some Italian factions who were republic.

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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    Hate to be a stick in the mud but the Scottish monarchy of this period was inherited and had been since 1005. From this date primogeniture was the form of royal succession in Scotland. It wouldn't be correct in any way for Scotland to be respresented by an election system.

    True, there were a few succession crisis and disputes hat eventually gave rise to the Wars of Independence but the succession system maintained was inherited, primogeniture.

    The royal succession in Celtic Scotland was limited to the elective agnatic or male line of the Siol Alpein (House of Alpin) until the accession of King Malcolm II in 1005. This monarch was the first to introduce the concept of hereditary monarchy in Scotland. He did so to try to eliminate the strife caused by the elective law, which encouraged rival claimants to fight for the Throne. Since Malcolm had only daughters, he also introduced the right of female-line succession in Scotland. This gave rise to conflict by competitors for generations thereafter. The Irish monarchies never at any stage allowed for female line succession, a position which is maintained to the present day
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanistry

    http://dspacedev.stir.ac.uk/bitstrea...l-Scotland.pdf

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    I think Wales also had similar succession systems:

    http://www.princesofgwynedd.com/characters.asp?pid=7
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    Default Re: War of the West (Update 21/04/2011) (Recruitment Guideline at the OP)

    Thanks Konstantinos, you don't mind if I focus on WotW and after the first campaign release, I'll help you out?

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    no problem.

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