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    QUESTION :
    Will we see this armor of brits as an upgrade?
    Last edited by AnthoniusII; November 05, 2011 at 03:32 AM.
    Freedom of Faith in Islam.

    Ας εχουν λοιπον, την πληρη και απολυτη ασφαλεια ,οσον αφορα τη ζωη τους ,τους ναους τους , τις πεποιθησεις τους και ολους τους προς προσκυνηση τοπους που κατεχουν τωρα εντος και εκτος της πολης. Οι υπολοιποι χριστιανοι θα ερχονται ως απλοι προσκυνητες και θα υπαγονται στον Πατριαρχη Ιεροσολημων.
    So..let them (Roman Orthodox christians) have full and absolute safety for their lives, their temples, their beliefs and to all worship sites currently held within and outside the city.
    The rest of the Christians will come as ordinary pilgrims and subject to the Patriarch of Jerusalem.
    Achtiname (decree) of Capliph Muʿāwiyah ibn ʾAbī Sufyān 658AD
    "This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
    Achtiname of Muhammad The Prophet

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    QUESTION :
    Will we see this armor of brits as an upgrade?
    I'm not really sure if Hollywood is a very accurate source though is it? I dont know, maybe they researched it for Braveheart, but i'm not holding my breath

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    They could also have researched wether the Scots looked like that

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    Hope you can include all the things I've red in your VERY impressive Mod Review !!
    Good luck and Succes to your WotW mod. ! +rep.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braveheart
    the models might be more accurate, i dont know, im basing the fact that they could be on the fact thet the cainmail covers the chin.

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    From what I've seen, the weird mini-plates stuff from Braveheart was the result of budget issues rather than historical research. They simply did not have enough $$ to outfit all the extras with chainmail, and came up with that stuff as a substitute.

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    Moved to the War of the West forum. Congrats.

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    1st Scots had knights too...WW was a knight too in real.
    2nd Scotish "soldiers" were not as the movie shows.
    In fact they were much better equipted and they were the ONLY in europe that used scildron formation.
    3rd These guys i th elast pic are englishmen.
    In fact their armor is much cheaper than a descent chain mail because is easier to make small plates and place them over a leather or cloth jacket.
    Freedom of Faith in Islam.

    Ας εχουν λοιπον, την πληρη και απολυτη ασφαλεια ,οσον αφορα τη ζωη τους ,τους ναους τους , τις πεποιθησεις τους και ολους τους προς προσκυνηση τοπους που κατεχουν τωρα εντος και εκτος της πολης. Οι υπολοιποι χριστιανοι θα ερχονται ως απλοι προσκυνητες και θα υπαγονται στον Πατριαρχη Ιεροσολημων.
    So..let them (Roman Orthodox christians) have full and absolute safety for their lives, their temples, their beliefs and to all worship sites currently held within and outside the city.
    The rest of the Christians will come as ordinary pilgrims and subject to the Patriarch of Jerusalem.
    Achtiname (decree) of Capliph Muʿāwiyah ibn ʾAbī Sufyān 658AD
    "This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
    Achtiname of Muhammad The Prophet

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    Congrats on your own forum!


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    Why thank you

    The Orcs of Gundabad Erin go Bragh FROGS

    When I came back to Dublin I was court marshaled in my absence and sentenced to death in my absence, so I said they could shoot me in my absence"
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    There is one weapon that the British cannot take away from us: we can ignore them.
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    They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn't want to be broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    1st Scots had knights too...WW was a knight too in real.
    2nd Scotish "soldiers" were not as the movie shows.
    In fact they were much better equipted and they were the ONLY in europe that used scildron formation.
    3rd These guys i th elast pic are englishmen.
    In fact their armor is much cheaper than a descent chain mail because is easier to make small plates and place them over a leather or cloth jacket.

    1) Indeed Scotland had knights but were less equipped prior the French influence to integrate feudalism. For sure not as much as England, this is a picture of Scottish knights at Bannockburn in 1314

    AS you can see, most of the knights wouldn't have caparison and even Robert the Bruce mounts was light armored in addition to be a palfrey. This link shows a design model for Robert and his mount along the knight Sir Henry de Bohun.

    And yes, Wallace was a knight, don't know why they depicted him as a Scottish rabbles.

    2)Totally agreed. This is what the main Scots were


    3)Correct but now sure about that equipment set. They would have wore mail than scale like armour.

    Bw, thanks Anthonius for giving additional pictures, that will help us.
    Last edited by Polycarpe; November 05, 2011 at 09:02 AM.

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    This mod looks extremely promising and congratulations on getting your own forum, rep is winging its way to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arglwydd Rhys View Post
    Yeah Brythonic would be the obvious choice for Wales. Also, Brittany is a brythonic duchy and they speak a similar language to Welsh. Would it be possible to make a Brythonic culture for wales and brittany or would that ruin the breton english/french balance. Alternatively, you could replace Gaelic with Celtic and include Wales (and maybe Brittany) Just a suggestion

    And yeah the mod looks amazing and i can't wait for it to come out!
    From the review I did yesterday after your suggestion, the "Other" culture could be replaced with "Brythonic", so Wales and Britanny will have it as base culture. And it will be quite a challenge for the duchy been surrounded with French and English culture. Thanks for the idea, +rep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derbiean View Post
    This mod looks extremely promising and congratulations on getting your own forum, rep is winging its way to you
    Thank you, it will be better now to do and have some research help from the fans.

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    hey, gratz on your own dev forum.
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    Thank you all

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    Very nice! Good look... I'm going to buy MTW II now ^^

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    Ah wonderful your own forum, congrats and keep up the great work.
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    You know CA should award the team, we just raised their income

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    I just read the powerpoint from the other thread. You work is very interesting. I will be looking forward your mod. Keep up the high work and + Rep all

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