House Baratheon of Storm's End Preview

[Alone Elf]

That is because we have certain unique things in mind. Posting them in an half finished way would help nobody.

This is true too. I still don't see the harm in suggesting win conditions for the different Factions. If you want Bitterhowl maybe start a new thread on the matter.

[bitterhowl]

I don't think it's necessary to make a new thread. It's enough to post them after the unit rooster and fractoin history in a first post.

[Gurkhal]

EDIT: Didn't remember I had already commented

Feel free to remove this post.

[Fingon NL]

To be fair, Martin often uses some things that wouldn`t be available in a typical medieval setting. Thinking about some dyed armor etc.

Well that isn't altogether strange, but it's more about the colour you would see even then.
We now have all those very bright weird colours bercause of our knowledge of chemistry, and I would say we haven't ahd any indication that they are particularly advanced in that area so they would still have only the more softer colours available for the less ''natural'' colours like poisenous green etc.
Anyway, will you also be making the Baratheon banners without the crown on the Stag if they for example are no longer King pretenders nor hold the Iron Throne?

[Lord Tywin]

Superb guys! Love the Kingswood Hunters.

As regards a comment someone made above about the lack of cities. Martin actually stated (I believe it is somewhere in So Spake Martin), that the Stormlands had no cities (or large towns of note). He did however say that the region had very fertile soil and a large amount of forestry which made the area was propersous enough to make House Baratheon a military and political force to be reckoned with.

Thanks for the preview!

[Captain Zoran]

I think that theres generally a lack of cities, its abit annoying but imo makes up for it just by adding so much more fun and challenge, because they have big economical impact, and because they are so few all Houses want a piece of their delicious, golden cake.

[HappyGoodVibes]

Looks great guys, keep up the good work!

[Murfmurf]

Pictures are down right now as my photobucket bandwidth suddenly seems to have decided its exceeded. I've deleted a lot of photos but the capricious thing seems set in its evil ways. If it's not working tomorrow morning I'll re-up the photos to a different server and repair the preview.

In response to the above question (Fingon), no we wouldn't remove the crown, as I don't believe there is any textual evidence to indicate that the Baratheon sigil was anything but a crowned stag. The original Lord Baratheon was a cousin to the Targaryen dynasty, thus Robert's claim, and as such the crowned stag probably symbolised this in its original conception. If you can of course point to evidence antithetical to this I will of course admit defeat

Colour wise, hmm, I think I'll sit on the fence. If aesthetically people would prefer the shield colours to be toned down, we can do this, but I don't think a historical debate in a fantasy setting is going to pan out. One mention of the word "dragons" and things tend to go awry!

[Murfmurf]

Fixed.

[TXTwilight]

Awesome Preview +rep
Renly looks amazing.

[Astor]

Colour wise, hmm, I think I'll sit on the fence. If aesthetically people would prefer the shield colours to be toned down, we can do this, but I don't think a historical debate in a fantasy setting is going to pan out. One mention of the word "dragons" and things tend to go awry!

O lord, tell me you're not using that tired old excuse. When considering a fantasy world you generally disregard the fantastical elements while designing it, unless it is affected by the fantasy. It's like saying "we might as well give them kevlar armour upgrades, it's just fantasy".

Awesome preview apart from the bright shields though

[Murfmurf]

O lord, tell me you're not using that tired old excuse. When considering a fantasy world you generally disregard the fantastical elements while designing it, unless it is affected by the fantasy. It's like saying "we might as well give them kevlar armour upgrades, it's just fantasy".

Awesome preview apart from the bright shields though

Thanks for the second part, but I don't agree with the first

It's not a tired old excuse by any means. Generally if arguments are old it's because they are deemed valid.

"When considering a fantasy world you generally disregard the fantastical elements while designing it, unless it is affected by the fantasy."

Surely this is paradoxical? If it is a fantasy world it is affected by fantasy by default, no? We describe many of these settings as medieval to give them a root of context in our minds. It doesn't mean that because something is true in the real world, it has to be so in the fantasy one. Otherwise we'd be questioning everything. 10 year long winters? Undead? Giants? Dragons? You can't just pick and choose what you're going to dismiss as fantasy and what you aren't. Yes this therefore includes colours.

If we accept that Westeros is a fantasy world, we therefore accept it has fantastical elements. House Tarth's colours are clearly described as pink and azure. Therefore we use pink and azure. It's as simple as that.

The main point here is if you don't like the shades of colour used, just say that. Otherwise we'll get these silly arguments. I could go into depth about how certain pigments were achieved in bygone times in our world, but how is that relevent to Westeros?

[Jebe]

Who will be the heir to House Baratheon?

[Captain Zoran]

Who will be the heir to House Baratheon?

Edric Storm mayhaps? Not that I think that Renly would have him as a first choice, however since we can't make the faction turn over to Stannis in case Renly falls, Edric might be the choice the Baratheon bannermen would choose?

[Darkstar]

Edric Storm mayhaps? Not that I think that Renly would have him as a first choice, however since we can't make the faction turn over to Stannis in case Renly falls, Edric might be the choice the Baratheon bannermen would choose?

Yes we can. Stannis will be Renly's heir.

[Gurkhal]

Sweet! We just need to kill that brat Renly and order is restored.

[Edric Storm]

...So if Stannis dies, I am heir to the Stormlands?

[HannibalExMachina]

only if someone doesnt burn you beforehand.....

[Captain Zoran]

Yes we can. Stannis will be Renly's heir.

You can? Awesome, + Rep for the entire team if I knew how

[Murfmurf]

You can? Awesome, + Rep for the entire team if I knew how

You can't give rep till you've written a certain amount of posts (50)? Then rep till your heart's content! (Or until TWC denies you )